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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4987586" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>Well... yes. In addition to freeing up the ability to get access to skills, 4E also adopted an encouragement that no problem has only one solution. Traps can typically be taken apart by a skilled rogue... or simply beaten apart or plowed through, or often magically disabled, etc. The goal is that having the ideal role should help solve a problem, but not be required to do so (unlike in 3rd Edition).</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>~shrug~ It may simply come down a difference in experiences. But my experience in 3rd Edition - especially in the RPGA, where tables are made or broken by having the right classes - was that 3rd Edition had much stricter requirements for party composition. That has not been my experience in 4E. Several elements of the rules seem outright designed to avoid that issue, and I've been pleasantly surprised in playing LFR, and seeing tables have remarkable success with non-standard parties. The same sort of tables that would lead to a TPK previously...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 4987586, member: 61155"] Well... yes. In addition to freeing up the ability to get access to skills, 4E also adopted an encouragement that no problem has only one solution. Traps can typically be taken apart by a skilled rogue... or simply beaten apart or plowed through, or often magically disabled, etc. The goal is that having the ideal role should help solve a problem, but not be required to do so (unlike in 3rd Edition). ~shrug~ It may simply come down a difference in experiences. But my experience in 3rd Edition - especially in the RPGA, where tables are made or broken by having the right classes - was that 3rd Edition had much stricter requirements for party composition. That has not been my experience in 4E. Several elements of the rules seem outright designed to avoid that issue, and I've been pleasantly surprised in playing LFR, and seeing tables have remarkable success with non-standard parties. The same sort of tables that would lead to a TPK previously... [/QUOTE]
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