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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 2578909" data-attributes="member: 3477">No, but I want an overhaul that fits the mood. The Realms are still the Realms, even after all the changes from 2E to 3E. Dark Sun should get a similarly sympathetic treatment. Actually, 3E has lots of tools to make that happen. I'm not against changes in DS; probably I would change even more than most proposals that float around, but not in a way that you could easily integrate the setting into the FR, like it happened in Dragon.Right, here we have different opinions. I don't see something outside of D&D just because a few core rules are taken out of the setting and a few specific ones are added. If we take your definition, quite a few of the 2E settings wouldn't be D&D. Neither Spelljammer nor Birthright would meet those conditions (with Birthright, even I have problems <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />), and I suppose it will be similar with other settings that I don't know.Nothing is wrong with that. Except that this will not happen.</blockquote>