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<blockquote data-quote="TheYeti1775" data-source="post: 5379433" data-attributes="member: 20914"><p>Much in the same boat as you. I've got plenty of dead tree material to last me years. Have yet to buy any 4e product for myself as of yet (unless you count minis on occassion).</p><p>I would fall into that casual gamer for 4e in your group. I'm all about 3.5e. But the DM for the 4e game let me have a copy of the CB to let me try a few different builds than email him the character file so he had a copy and could recommend a few things that I missed or might be a better fit for my play style.</p><p>That experience really opened me up to playing in a 4e game.</p><p></p><p>Moving to an online only format, you lose players like myself. I'll just stay in the older editions and be happy doing it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Or they will be like those of us that still lurk around EnWorld, though we have purchased nothing after our point of breaking.</p><p></p><p>For me, I quit buying new books (deadtree) after 4e was announced. I still shop the secondary market mainly for older versions. I'm sure if I found a collection of 4e ones for $5 or so on Craigslist or a yard sale I would pick them up. But I don't actively look for them.</p><p></p><p>The downloadable Character Builder actually made me consider getting a DDI subscription after my 4e DM let me have a copy to try out so I would give it a go in our groups game.</p><p></p><p>Taking it (CB) online, pretty much knocks off that thinking of mine.</p><p>Have any of you given thought to past actions of WotC with stuff posted/saved to their servers? It was a policy of their's not so long ago anything on them was their IP. Many of us scrubbed our accounts of our house rules, various worlds and whatnot when that change in the ToS came out.</p><p></p><p>With a downloaded copy, you were protected in a way from that. And you could freely share a character with anyone in the world you wish that had the Character Builder as well.</p><p>What happens when 5e comes out, does this version stay available or does it just simple go away and is replaced with a 5e version of it? What happens to all your characters you have stored on their servers at the time of the switch?</p><p></p><p>Voting with $$ is the best way to have their attention.</p><p>Honestly the change won't affect me much at all and I would have never known about it had the 4eDM hadn't mentioned it during our Star Wars game.</p><p></p><p>That is a good case point in itself now that I think about it. </p><p>Apply this to Star Wars.</p><p>What if the Character Builder had been for SW.</p><p>Than they moved it online.</p><p>Now when Lucas pulls SW back from WotC and they can't have anything SW on their site now.</p><p>Your Character Builder for SW just went away.</p><p></p><p>O but that couldn't happen to D&D you say to yourself.</p><p>Ask yourself "Why couldn't it?".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheYeti1775, post: 5379433, member: 20914"] Much in the same boat as you. I've got plenty of dead tree material to last me years. Have yet to buy any 4e product for myself as of yet (unless you count minis on occassion). I would fall into that casual gamer for 4e in your group. I'm all about 3.5e. But the DM for the 4e game let me have a copy of the CB to let me try a few different builds than email him the character file so he had a copy and could recommend a few things that I missed or might be a better fit for my play style. That experience really opened me up to playing in a 4e game. Moving to an online only format, you lose players like myself. I'll just stay in the older editions and be happy doing it. Or they will be like those of us that still lurk around EnWorld, though we have purchased nothing after our point of breaking. For me, I quit buying new books (deadtree) after 4e was announced. I still shop the secondary market mainly for older versions. I'm sure if I found a collection of 4e ones for $5 or so on Craigslist or a yard sale I would pick them up. But I don't actively look for them. The downloadable Character Builder actually made me consider getting a DDI subscription after my 4e DM let me have a copy to try out so I would give it a go in our groups game. Taking it (CB) online, pretty much knocks off that thinking of mine. Have any of you given thought to past actions of WotC with stuff posted/saved to their servers? It was a policy of their's not so long ago anything on them was their IP. Many of us scrubbed our accounts of our house rules, various worlds and whatnot when that change in the ToS came out. With a downloaded copy, you were protected in a way from that. And you could freely share a character with anyone in the world you wish that had the Character Builder as well. What happens when 5e comes out, does this version stay available or does it just simple go away and is replaced with a 5e version of it? What happens to all your characters you have stored on their servers at the time of the switch? Voting with $$ is the best way to have their attention. Honestly the change won't affect me much at all and I would have never known about it had the 4eDM hadn't mentioned it during our Star Wars game. That is a good case point in itself now that I think about it. Apply this to Star Wars. What if the Character Builder had been for SW. Than they moved it online. Now when Lucas pulls SW back from WotC and they can't have anything SW on their site now. Your Character Builder for SW just went away. O but that couldn't happen to D&D you say to yourself. Ask yourself "Why couldn't it?". [/QUOTE]
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