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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Patlin" data-source="post: 3926419" data-attributes="member: 17264">"Naruto" was recomended to me by several members of my gaming group, and watching it has caused me to think about the limits of traditional fantasy in terms of game balance.  It seems to me that in most western fantasy literature, the truly powerfull characters are usually wizards.  King Arthur is a powerfull fighter, but the limits of Merlin's powers are unknowable.  Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are larger than life... as long as Gandalf's not in the same room.  Barak, Silk, and Hetar were heroes, but not of the world shattering power of Belgarath the Sorceror.  Next to Elminster, even that dual scimitar wielding dark elf sems like a fairly ordinary guy.With this in mind, it was interesting to see "Master Jeriah the Toad Sage" in a role similar to some sort of Archmage... and to realize that in spite of his powers, he's basically a fighting character.  I've heard a lot of people say that if you want to play in the epic game, you need 9th level spells at your disposal.  More generally, a lot of people have commented that Wizards become more and more powerfull at higher levels.  In my personal opinion, that's a lot less so in 3e than in 1e, but still a valid point.With Bo9S, we saw a little bit about how fighting "powers" can work.  A lot of things about Naruto remind me of things in the Bo9S.  I don't want fighters in general to use things like a "summoning jutsu," but I would like to see a 4e 30th level fighter be equally powerfull and interesting as a 4e 30th level Wizard, Cleric, or Warlock.If Bo9S is an indication of how they might accomplish this in 4e, I'm looking forward to seeing what they come up with.</blockquote>

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