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<blockquote data-quote="Zil" data-source="post: 4296207" data-attributes="member: 20004"><p>I've heard lots of bad experiences with 4E wizards as well so I decided to roll one up (okay, no rolling of any dice...) just to give it a try this evening.&nbsp; This will be our first 4E game.&nbsp; I can't say any of us have really enjoyed the character creation process so far.&nbsp; While I was pleased at first that my wizard still felt a tiny bit&nbsp; like a wizard of old, once I dug deeper to figure things out more it just got more and more annoying.&nbsp;&nbsp; I really don't like the exception based rules philosophy.&nbsp; Just about everything is an exception.&nbsp; Sure, spells always were exceptions in the past, but when trying to figure out how my wizard interacts with other people it was a bloody mess of powers/exploits/prayers to figure out.&nbsp; Bah.&nbsp; I certainly hope that game play is more fun than character generation is (or reading the PHB is), but I'm worried we're in for a rough ride.&nbsp; Off to the Keep on the Shadowfell!</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Zil, post: 4296207, member: 20004"] I've heard lots of bad experiences with 4E wizards as well so I decided to roll one up (okay, no rolling of any dice...) just to give it a try this evening. This will be our first 4E game. I can't say any of us have really enjoyed the character creation process so far. While I was pleased at first that my wizard still felt a tiny bit like a wizard of old, once I dug deeper to figure things out more it just got more and more annoying. I really don't like the exception based rules philosophy. Just about everything is an exception. Sure, spells always were exceptions in the past, but when trying to figure out how my wizard interacts with other people it was a bloody mess of powers/exploits/prayers to figure out. Bah. I certainly hope that game play is more fun than character generation is (or reading the PHB is), but I'm worried we're in for a rough ride. Off to the Keep on the Shadowfell! [/QUOTE]

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