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<blockquote data-quote="scramasax" data-source="post: 4297645" data-attributes="member: 68515">I don't care that the wizard has more or less hitpoint are that his dps is too high or tool low this was a class that was good to avoid combat. Wizard had a good toolbox of spells for non combat encounter.&nbsp; At 1st level a wizard was able to charm person, comprehend language, erase writings, feather fall, reduce person, do ventriloquism, disguise self, summon a mount and detect a lot of things.&nbsp; Now when I read their spells they are mostly turn into combat spell. I played 8 hour today or roleplaying game with 1 hour of combat. So seeing that my perso now has most of its power for only a small part of my playing time is not what I would consider a good use of laboratory time from my wizard. A wizard level 27 that dominate a king can only use it to attack the queen just beside instead of making the king pass a new law. You can enter into a prison to deliver someone by killing all the guard or by making a cuning plan. I prefer a lot the game where you have to make the cuning plan and the wizard is a lot less efficient than it was before. This is not the same classe anymore</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scramasax, post: 4297645, member: 68515"] I don't care that the wizard has more or less hitpoint are that his dps is too high or tool low this was a class that was good to avoid combat. Wizard had a good toolbox of spells for non combat encounter. At 1st level a wizard was able to charm person, comprehend language, erase writings, feather fall, reduce person, do ventriloquism, disguise self, summon a mount and detect a lot of things. Now when I read their spells they are mostly turn into combat spell. I played 8 hour today or roleplaying game with 1 hour of combat. So seeing that my perso now has most of its power for only a small part of my playing time is not what I would consider a good use of laboratory time from my wizard. A wizard level 27 that dominate a king can only use it to attack the queen just beside instead of making the king pass a new law. You can enter into a prison to deliver someone by killing all the guard or by making a cuning plan. I prefer a lot the game where you have to make the cuning plan and the wizard is a lot less efficient than it was before. This is not the same classe anymore [/QUOTE]

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