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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 3486310" data-attributes="member: 20741">To a point that's true. But I don't think there were too many Gone with the Wind lunch pails and collectible toys (or toothbrushes, pillow cases, backscratchers, etc.)DVD sales of SF/Fantasy and licensed products (and, above all, children's&nbsp; animated films) are a much larger relative source of revenue these days. Box office as a leading&nbsp; indication of a film's revenue can be misleading.Star Wars blows them all away in terms of overall revenue due to its licensing value - even 30 years later. It's not even close. Which is why we've been spoon fed Fantasy and SF big summer films for the past 30 years. With the exception of Titanic, not a single &quot;big movie&quot; in the adjusted for inflation list is NOT a genre film after Star Wars' release.And I'd argue that Titanic's huge special effects budget was so significant to the success of the movie that is essentially WAS a genre film with a romance wrapper.Gone with the Wind is really no different. Along with Wizard of Oz of the same year, it was the first color movie - in itself a massive &quot;special effect&quot; that was of the same nature to make it the Star Wars/ Titanic of its day. The thing ran in first run and rep theatres for 35 years to accumulate its box office total - and did not have a VCR, DVD or Internet or to compete against during the entire length of that run. It made the biggest chunk of its money before there was TV.8 of the top 20 of all time would be &quot;genre films&quot; when adjusted for inflation.&nbsp; What the numbers reveal is that unless it's an animated film, comedy is almost an impossible genre in which to hit it out of the park.1&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Gone with the Wind&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; MGM&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $1,329,453,600&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $198,676,459&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1939^2&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Star Wars&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fox&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $1,172,026,900&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $460,998,007&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1977^3&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Sound of Music&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fox&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $937,093,200&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $158,671,368&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19654&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Uni.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $933,401,500&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $435,110,554&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1982^5&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Ten Commandments&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Par.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $861,980,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $65,500,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19566&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Titanic&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Par.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $844,515,900&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $600,788,188&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19977&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Jaws&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Uni.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $842,758,600&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $260,000,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19758&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Doctor Zhivago&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; MGM&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $816,811,300&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $111,721,910&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 19659&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Exorcist&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; WB&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $727,541,800&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $232,671,011&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1973^10&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dis.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $717,220,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $184,925,486&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1937^11&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 101 Dalmatians&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dis.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $657,455,500&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $144,880,014&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1961^12&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Empire Strikes Back&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fox&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $646,028,600&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $290,475,067&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1980^13&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Ben-Hur&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; MGM&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $644,840,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $74,000,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 195914&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Return of the Jedi&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fox&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $618,910,900&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $309,306,177&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1983^15&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Sting&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Uni.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $586,560,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $156,000,000&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 197316&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Raiders of the Lost Ark&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Par.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $579,973,400&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $242,374,454&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1981^17&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Jurassic Park&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Uni.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $567,234,400&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $357,067,947&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 199318&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; The Graduate&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; AVCO&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $562,688,100&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $104,642,560&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 196719&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fox&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $558,153,800&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $431,088,301&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 199920&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Fantasia&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Dis.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $546,426,100&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $76,408,097&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 1941^</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 3486310, member: 20741"] To a point that's true. But I don't think there were too many Gone with the Wind lunch pails and collectible toys (or toothbrushes, pillow cases, backscratchers, etc.) DVD sales of SF/Fantasy and licensed products (and, above all, children's animated films) are a much larger relative source of revenue these days. Box office as a leading indication of a film's revenue can be misleading. Star Wars blows them all away in terms of overall revenue due to its licensing value - even 30 years later. It's not even close. Which is why we've been spoon fed Fantasy and SF big summer films for the past 30 years. With the exception of Titanic, not a single "big movie" in the adjusted for inflation list is NOT a genre film after Star Wars' release. And I'd argue that Titanic's huge special effects budget was so significant to the success of the movie that is essentially WAS a genre film with a romance wrapper. Gone with the Wind is really no different. Along with Wizard of Oz of the same year, it was the first color movie - in itself a massive "special effect" that was of the same nature to make it the Star Wars/ Titanic of its day. The thing ran in first run and rep theatres for 35 years to accumulate its box office total - and did not have a VCR, DVD or Internet or to compete against during the entire length of that run. It made the biggest chunk of its money before there was TV. 8 of the top 20 of all time would be "genre films" when adjusted for inflation. What the numbers reveal is that unless it's an animated film, comedy is almost an impossible genre in which to hit it out of the park. 1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,329,453,600 $198,676,459 1939^ [B]2 Star Wars Fox $1,172,026,900 $460,998,007 1977^[/B] 3 The Sound of Music Fox $937,093,200 $158,671,368 1965 [B]4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $933,401,500 $435,110,554 1982^[/B] 5 The Ten Commandments Par. $861,980,000 $65,500,000 1956 6 Titanic Par. $844,515,900 $600,788,188 1997 7 Jaws Uni. $842,758,600 $260,000,000 1975 8 Doctor Zhivago MGM $816,811,300 $111,721,910 1965 [B]9 The Exorcist WB $727,541,800 $232,671,011 1973^[/B] 10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. $717,220,000 $184,925,486 1937^ 11 101 Dalmatians Dis. $657,455,500 $144,880,014 1961^ [B]12 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $646,028,600 $290,475,067 1980^[/B] 13 Ben-Hur MGM $644,840,000 $74,000,000 1959 [B]14 Return of the Jedi Fox $618,910,900 $309,306,177 1983^[/B] 15 The Sting Uni. $586,560,000 $156,000,000 1973 [B]16 Raiders of the Lost Ark Par. $579,973,400 $242,374,454 1981^[/B] [B]17 Jurassic Park Uni. $567,234,400 $357,067,947 1993[/B] 18 The Graduate AVCO $562,688,100 $104,642,560 1967 [B]19 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace Fox $558,153,800 $431,088,301 1999[/B] 20 Fantasia Dis. $546,426,100 $76,408,097 1941^ [/QUOTE]

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