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Wizards of the Coast promises to release more “CRPGs that are going to be as serious as BG3” without Larian
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9681741" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Definitely not a CRPG in the way the word is used now, even if it is in the way the word was used say, 30-40 years ago (when it was used to mean just "not a TTRPG"). CRPGs are a specific thing - usually party-based, usually stats-heavy, with choices and story, and usually not first or close third-person.</p><p></p><p>There are absolutely family-friendly games that are technically RPGs - Super Mario RPG is another series. A lot of JRPGs are (though by no means all). But in CRPGs that's been pretty much death for decades. You don't have to go full BG3 but you can't do family friendly.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That seems an odd comparison to me as It's a completely different game to Witcher 3 (which is also not a CRPG - it's a story RPG or an action RPG, not to be confused with an ARPG), an almost unrelated genre, a sort of open-world go anywhere, do anything, "solve physical puzzles/situations" game which merely has some largely superficial RPG elements. There are games regarded as "just a shooter" or the like which have more RPG stuff going on than BotW - Ghost Recon: Breakpoint for example. Frankly it's got more in common with any kind of Ubisoft open world game than any CRPG (Ultima 6/7 would be the closest CRPG). It's barely an RPG at all - I don't say that as a criticism, note, it's incredible design! But it doesn't resemble the Witcher. It barely has a plot, characters or interaction (there's probably less dialogue in all of BotW than like, one smallish town in Witcher 3) whereas they're the entire heart of TW3, and the plot it does have is pretty much optional - you can just go defeat Calamity Ganon right at the start of the game and people have. Immersive sims are a bit closer to it (hence the U6/7 comparison, those were RPG that were close to immersive sims), but it has a wild scope that no modern immersive sim does (though some 1980s/1990s games which were sort of pre-immersive sims had a similar scope).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9681741, member: 18"] Definitely not a CRPG in the way the word is used now, even if it is in the way the word was used say, 30-40 years ago (when it was used to mean just "not a TTRPG"). CRPGs are a specific thing - usually party-based, usually stats-heavy, with choices and story, and usually not first or close third-person. There are absolutely family-friendly games that are technically RPGs - Super Mario RPG is another series. A lot of JRPGs are (though by no means all). But in CRPGs that's been pretty much death for decades. You don't have to go full BG3 but you can't do family friendly. That seems an odd comparison to me as It's a completely different game to Witcher 3 (which is also not a CRPG - it's a story RPG or an action RPG, not to be confused with an ARPG), an almost unrelated genre, a sort of open-world go anywhere, do anything, "solve physical puzzles/situations" game which merely has some largely superficial RPG elements. There are games regarded as "just a shooter" or the like which have more RPG stuff going on than BotW - Ghost Recon: Breakpoint for example. Frankly it's got more in common with any kind of Ubisoft open world game than any CRPG (Ultima 6/7 would be the closest CRPG). It's barely an RPG at all - I don't say that as a criticism, note, it's incredible design! But it doesn't resemble the Witcher. It barely has a plot, characters or interaction (there's probably less dialogue in all of BotW than like, one smallish town in Witcher 3) whereas they're the entire heart of TW3, and the plot it does have is pretty much optional - you can just go defeat Calamity Ganon right at the start of the game and people have. Immersive sims are a bit closer to it (hence the U6/7 comparison, those were RPG that were close to immersive sims), but it has a wild scope that no modern immersive sim does (though some 1980s/1990s games which were sort of pre-immersive sims had a similar scope). [/QUOTE]
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