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<blockquote data-quote="Ranger REG" data-source="post: 1911045" data-attributes="member: 533"><p>I don't dispute that there are more 2e products than there are 3e products, though it does appear that WotC is heading toward the same direction.</p><p></p><p>TSR made way too many products and product lines to support themselves. While that's good for us customers, it's bad for them because they're running their business down into the ground. Ryan Dancey once stated that he toured TSR's warehouse in Wisconsin and have seen so many unsold and returned products.</p><p></p><p>You have to remember they don't print and distribute the books for free. They don't even have their own printers. They pay the bookprinting company to make such a large amount of books, and they hope they would get a return when they sold each and every copy of those printed book. If you don't do that, and the expenses you put in the book projects is greater than the sales you get thus far, that is a loss. You have no choice but to reach into your own pocket to make up the debt.</p><p></p><p>It's even worse when you try to charge less for the book in the hope that it will move sales upward. But again, I point to that Ryan Dancey's interview of his tour at TSR's warehouse in Wisconsin. (I don't recall the exact URL but I'm sure someone out there does.)</p><p></p><p>Let's face it, in a fantasy world, where inflation is non-existent, you can have rulebooks that cost $20 each, and that goes double for the <em>Vampire: The Requiem</em> book. But that isn't the case in the real world where everybody's agenda is to take in more (higher income) and take out less (cost of living).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ranger REG, post: 1911045, member: 533"] I don't dispute that there are more 2e products than there are 3e products, though it does appear that WotC is heading toward the same direction. TSR made way too many products and product lines to support themselves. While that's good for us customers, it's bad for them because they're running their business down into the ground. Ryan Dancey once stated that he toured TSR's warehouse in Wisconsin and have seen so many unsold and returned products. You have to remember they don't print and distribute the books for free. They don't even have their own printers. They pay the bookprinting company to make such a large amount of books, and they hope they would get a return when they sold each and every copy of those printed book. If you don't do that, and the expenses you put in the book projects is greater than the sales you get thus far, that is a loss. You have no choice but to reach into your own pocket to make up the debt. It's even worse when you try to charge less for the book in the hope that it will move sales upward. But again, I point to that Ryan Dancey's interview of his tour at TSR's warehouse in Wisconsin. (I don't recall the exact URL but I'm sure someone out there does.) Let's face it, in a fantasy world, where inflation is non-existent, you can have rulebooks that cost $20 each, and that goes double for the [i]Vampire: The Requiem[/i] book. But that isn't the case in the real world where everybody's agenda is to take in more (higher income) and take out less (cost of living). [/QUOTE]
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