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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5489056" data-attributes="member: 1165">Were you looking for offense as well? Because there's already been discussions of the various save-or-suffer spells.I'm literally struggling to picture any of these. Are any of them using spell-like abilities? Will that be a serious issue if I'm invisible and they don't know which square I'm in?That's why you try to avoid being targeted.Actual gameplay. It's a lot better than getting ganked.And you'll note I did say &quot;more likely 8th&quot; to give you some 4th-level offense too. And of course you still have Mirror Image for the next encounter.Really? Fire Shield IME sucks. We faced an NPC mage using it. Our fighter or barbarian (I forget which) just absorbed the damage and killed him. The DM was new to DMing that level, and said he'd never use that spell again.Stoneskin has an expensive material component. I believe it still did in 3.5 as well, but they might have changed it. It won't protect you from magic, either.I haven't seen Fire Wall in play, so I'm not too experienced in its use. I'd need to read it up.Evard's Black Tentacles is an attack spell, and I was discussing defense. And yes, Evard's is pretty sweet.Those spells would be picked if they were me. At least Greater Invisibility anyway, since it's easier to use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5489056, member: 1165"] Were you looking for offense as well? Because there's already been discussions of the various save-or-suffer spells. I'm literally struggling to picture any of these. Are any of them using spell-like abilities? Will that be a serious issue if I'm invisible and they don't know which square I'm in? That's why you try to avoid being targeted. Actual gameplay. It's a lot better than getting ganked. And you'll note I did say "more likely 8th" to give you some 4th-level offense too. And of course you still have Mirror Image for the next encounter. Really? Fire Shield IME sucks. We faced an NPC mage using it. Our fighter or barbarian (I forget which) just absorbed the damage and killed him. The DM was new to DMing that level, and said he'd never use that spell again. Stoneskin has an expensive material component. I believe it still did in 3.5 as well, but they might have changed it. It won't protect you from magic, either. I haven't seen Fire Wall in play, so I'm not too experienced in its use. I'd need to read it up. Evard's Black Tentacles is an attack spell, and I was discussing defense. And yes, Evard's is pretty sweet. Those spells would be picked if they were me. At least Greater Invisibility anyway, since it's easier to use. [/QUOTE]

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