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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 5489798" data-attributes="member: 1165">Hit points don't matter against a wizard.I cast Hold Monster. 60%+ chance the fighter is now helpless. I can now do whatever I want to him. CdG. Hit him with other spells. Or I can hit him with Heightened Glitterdust, so now he's blind. Or I can cast Mirror Image, and make it hard for him to hit me (max two chances per round, since I'll be moving; no full round attacks for him). Greater Invisibility, so now he can't even see or target me!Okay, he hits the mage for 30 damage. The mage takes a 5 foot step (or just casts on the defensive) and freezes him in place. Or casts Dimension Door. Or casts Dominate Person. I'm sorry, but 30 hit points worth of damage aren't particularly scary if you only get to do it once.And a fighter is pathetic without their gamut of AC-boosting items. Throw them both in jail, they're pretty weak. But at least the wizard doesn't forget his spells until he casts them. So if the fighter prison mate tries anything, he's still going to be frozen in place, then get shived (CdG) with his own weapon.No they wouldn't. I'm speaking from experience, using some decent but not massively inspired tactics. Cast a defense spell, then attack. Or just attack. The fighter is nearly helpless against a mage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 5489798, member: 1165"] Hit points don't matter [b]against[/b] a wizard. I cast Hold Monster. 60%+ chance the fighter is now helpless. I can now do whatever I want to him. CdG. Hit him with other spells. Or I can hit him with Heightened Glitterdust, so now he's blind. Or I can cast Mirror Image, and make it hard for him to hit me (max two chances per round, since I'll be moving; no full round attacks for him). Greater Invisibility, [b]so now he can't even see or target me![/b] Okay, he hits the mage for 30 damage. The mage takes a 5 foot step (or just casts on the defensive) and freezes him in place. Or casts Dimension Door. Or casts Dominate Person. I'm sorry, but 30 hit points worth of damage aren't particularly scary if you only get to do it once. And a fighter is pathetic without their gamut of AC-boosting items. Throw them both in jail, they're pretty weak. But at least the wizard doesn't forget his spells until he casts them. So if the fighter prison mate tries anything, he's still going to be frozen in place, then get shived (CdG) with his own weapon. No they wouldn't. I'm speaking from experience, using some decent but not massively inspired tactics. Cast a defense spell, then attack. Or just attack. The fighter is nearly helpless against a mage. [/QUOTE]

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