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Message: <blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 3977782" data-attributes="member: 57910">True, although the fact that shields and greatswords are unwieldy in undergrowth makes twf and archery good choices for forest based combat, the fact that they didn't have a spear based combat style or other woodlands appropriate combat styles was very silly.A large part of the design concept of 4e is that all classes should be able to contribute to combat in different ways, making Fighters the best at "fighting" in general would kind of go against this.This again goes against the design concept of 4e, since having a major combat ability that only comes up in certain areas overly restricts the DM's choices of plot so that he makes sure everyone has a fair go. A better idea would perhaps be to give the ranger abilities based on moving through and using terrain obstacles to his benefit, as this is something an outdoorsy guy would be good at, while still being helpful in multiple different situations.Physicists are smart, therefore they can come up with ways to deal with problems, therefore obviously Steven Hawking is the most powerful adventurer ever.Seriously, saying "wizards are cool and smart" or "it's magic" isn't a reason to make them overpowered, and no, high level Spellcasters did not have have appreciable limits on their spell power, certainly not compared to everything else in the game.Umn, so why do you have a problem with the designers doing similar things so that you don't have to?Nobodies saying this kind of thing isn't possible, but this is what's called "working around/against the system", It's a problem you've fixed in your games, doesn't mean as designers they shouldn't fix the problem with the rules in the first place, set it up so I don't have to punish the spellcaster for using his magic in imaginative ways.Absolutely, but remember, Rogues often also felt overshadowed by wizards at high levels (although not as much as fighters), implying this won't solve everything, the power difference was between spellcasters and non-spellcasters, not merely between Fighter-types with no skills and Wizards.I agree with the idea that having the only controller in the PHB be mostly a "blaster" as opposed to based more off actual Crowd Control or Terrain control (or having a blaster and an atuall "controller") was a poor choice, and I'm fairly disappointed by it, although I care far less about the names of things and what class would do what than a lot of people I've heard from.</blockquote>

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