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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 582952" data-attributes="member: 1134">Besides protective magics as numion pointed out the cleric absolutely smacks the wiz down in divination.  Scrys and direct info gathering is the limit of the wizard, the cleric has the "hey God" line of spells sure to annoy any DM, and basically make the wizard look pathetic in divination.And I'd say the wizards spells aren't close to being way better.  Slightly better maybe but that is well more than made up for by the cleric actually knowing the spells and the wizard only knowing the ones in his spellbook.Take a look at thw wizards spellbook in your party at level and look at the 30 spells the wizard knows and compare it to the couple hundred the cleric knows and see which spell list is way better now.  Sure fly beats out air walk 3rd to 4th level, base 90 move compared to ordinary move and other comparisons can be made, the difference is the cleric has all the slightly inferior spellsthe wizard has a few on the slightly better spells, add in that many of the clerics spells actually aren't inferior and are actually superior and it realy looks bad for the wiz in a strict compare/contrast argument.  I think all spell casters are too good though.</blockquote>