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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 1024822" data-attributes="member: 6239">You have misunderstood, probably because I was half asleep when I wrote that.&nbsp; The two-handed fighter gets a shield.&nbsp; That is only a few more points of AC as far as he is concerned.&nbsp; He can have special abilities on the armor he normally wears.&nbsp; That isn't overpowered, considering the cost of the animated shield.Now, the wizard on the other hand, gets the same AC boost, but they skip the arcane spell failure chance and get armor special abilities they wouldn't have otherwise have access to.&nbsp; That is why mirthral bucklers and animated tower shields were powergaming for mages in 3e.&nbsp; They were too good, now they have gotten toned down.As for magic vestment, it is common in muchkin-style games (at least around here) to chain (possibly with a lesser rod) a magic vestment to everything in the party that the PCs were going to use.&nbsp; Under 3e, that is +5 at 15th level.&nbsp; I am assuming the mage is traveling in a balanced party.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 1024822, member: 6239"] You have misunderstood, probably because I was half asleep when I wrote that. The two-handed fighter gets a shield. That is only a few more points of AC as far as he is concerned. He can have special abilities on the armor he normally wears. That isn't overpowered, considering the cost of the animated shield. Now, the wizard on the other hand, gets the same AC boost, but they skip the arcane spell failure chance and get armor special abilities they wouldn't have otherwise have access to. That is why mirthral bucklers and animated tower shields were powergaming for mages in 3e. They were too good, now they have gotten toned down. As for magic vestment, it is common in muchkin-style games (at least around here) to chain (possibly with a lesser rod) a magic vestment to everything in the party that the PCs were going to use. Under 3e, that is +5 at 15th level. I am assuming the mage is traveling in a balanced party. [/QUOTE]

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