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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9674016" data-attributes="member: 18">The Mad God/Leviathan in Armageddon is pretty straightforward AFAICT, it's just a powerful force of destruction, a supernatural Genghis Khan but without the style or ideas, there's nothing to really think about or consider about it. It doesn't have a philosophical perspective or anything to say - it's similar to a particularly boring Nephandi. The Church of the Revelation has absolutely nothing going on conceptually, it's just a generic oppressor without any interesting weirdness. Also, re-reading Armageddon, wow setting-wise it is a very dated compared to contemporary and even earlier RPGs, it did not see the 21st century coming at all, not even slightly. It's really stuck in a sort of 1992-ish vision of the world, even though it didn't come out until 1997, and got revised in 2003. I think that probably factored in to its lack of success.(Unfortunately it also has some really dodgy ideas about religion and culture outside the US which border on the racist, but that's separate and sadly fairly common for the 1990s.)With the Technocracy you have 5 (or more) different and loosely linked philosophies that are trying to change reality to conform to them, that's tremendously complicated, all with their own unique takes, unique combatants (which don't just conform to fairly bog-standard demons/angels/pagan gods etc), unique ways of doing things and so on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9674016, member: 18"] The Mad God/Leviathan in Armageddon is pretty straightforward AFAICT, it's just a powerful force of destruction, a supernatural Genghis Khan but without the style or ideas, there's nothing to really think about or consider about it. It doesn't have a philosophical perspective or anything to say - it's similar to a particularly boring Nephandi. The Church of the Revelation has absolutely nothing going on conceptually, it's just a generic oppressor without any interesting weirdness. Also, re-reading Armageddon, wow setting-wise it is a very dated compared to contemporary and even earlier RPGs, it did not see the 21st century coming at all, not even slightly. It's really stuck in a sort of 1992-ish vision of the world, even though it didn't come out until 1997, and got revised in 2003. I think that probably factored in to its lack of success. (Unfortunately it also has some really dodgy ideas about religion and culture outside the US which border on the racist, but that's separate and sadly fairly common for the 1990s.) With the Technocracy you have 5 (or more) different and loosely linked philosophies that are trying to change reality to conform to them, that's tremendously complicated, all with their own unique takes, unique combatants (which don't just conform to fairly bog-standard demons/angels/pagan gods etc), unique ways of doing things and so on. [/QUOTE]

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