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<blockquote data-quote="noldona" data-source="post: 7532271" data-attributes="member: 6779570"><p>Disclaimer: My rational mind is sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes that I am not privy to, so the following rant is based upon how things appear to be to my emotional mind.</p><p></p><p>WOIN is really starting to annoy me and I haven't even played a real campaign in the system yet. I backed the kickstarter for the system and so far am annoyed by two main issues. The issues don't really have anything to do with the systems themselves, but more about how they are being managed.</p><p></p><p>First, while I understand it takes time to write and publish books, the fact that content which was promised in the kickstarter back in early 2014, namely the very vital bestiaries, haven't been created yet. While more content for a system is nice, I wish the content that would pledged and paid for would actually be finished before other content which isn't vital to actually playing the campaign. These bestiaries are one of the things to attracted me to this system. Other generics systems like GRUPS does not provide these which forces the GM to take on the task of build all of the enemies themselves. This is very time consuming and one of the reasons D&D is so attractive as a system.</p><p></p><p>Second, it's also annoying that O.L.D. appears to be treated like a second class citizen. There have been at least 4 new alien races articles on E.O.N.S. but only 1 new fantasy race article. Don't even get me started on how the N.O.W. system is being treated. I like sci-fi as much as the next person, but I really backed this system for the O.L.D. The generic system with specific stuff for medieval fantasy was one of the draws of this system for me. Other generic systems seem to lack information on running fantasy games (GURPS) or are unbalanced between the fantasy and the sci-fi stuff (RIFTS). WOTC attempted and failed to do something with the d20 Modern and d20 Future books. A well balanced system that is equally fantasy, modern, and sci-fi is something that is really needed. I think WOIN can fill this void, but only if it puts equal focus on O.L.D. and N.O.W. as it does on N.E.W.</p><p></p><p>Publish the promised bestiaries so a campaign can actually be played (and I want a real bestiary, not the limited list available on the site) and treat each system equally but publishing content for all of them in equal amounts. Since I know it can be a while before the bestiaries are published, some sort of conversion chart to allow the easy conversion of the monsters from the D&D Monster Manuals (don't care if its 3.X ed or 5th ed) into WOIN would be helpful to make this system usable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="noldona, post: 7532271, member: 6779570"] Disclaimer: My rational mind is sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes that I am not privy to, so the following rant is based upon how things appear to be to my emotional mind. WOIN is really starting to annoy me and I haven't even played a real campaign in the system yet. I backed the kickstarter for the system and so far am annoyed by two main issues. The issues don't really have anything to do with the systems themselves, but more about how they are being managed. First, while I understand it takes time to write and publish books, the fact that content which was promised in the kickstarter back in early 2014, namely the very vital bestiaries, haven't been created yet. While more content for a system is nice, I wish the content that would pledged and paid for would actually be finished before other content which isn't vital to actually playing the campaign. These bestiaries are one of the things to attracted me to this system. Other generics systems like GRUPS does not provide these which forces the GM to take on the task of build all of the enemies themselves. This is very time consuming and one of the reasons D&D is so attractive as a system. Second, it's also annoying that O.L.D. appears to be treated like a second class citizen. There have been at least 4 new alien races articles on E.O.N.S. but only 1 new fantasy race article. Don't even get me started on how the N.O.W. system is being treated. I like sci-fi as much as the next person, but I really backed this system for the O.L.D. The generic system with specific stuff for medieval fantasy was one of the draws of this system for me. Other generic systems seem to lack information on running fantasy games (GURPS) or are unbalanced between the fantasy and the sci-fi stuff (RIFTS). WOTC attempted and failed to do something with the d20 Modern and d20 Future books. A well balanced system that is equally fantasy, modern, and sci-fi is something that is really needed. I think WOIN can fill this void, but only if it puts equal focus on O.L.D. and N.O.W. as it does on N.E.W. Publish the promised bestiaries so a campaign can actually be played (and I want a real bestiary, not the limited list available on the site) and treat each system equally but publishing content for all of them in equal amounts. Since I know it can be a while before the bestiaries are published, some sort of conversion chart to allow the easy conversion of the monsters from the D&D Monster Manuals (don't care if its 3.X ed or 5th ed) into WOIN would be helpful to make this system usable. [/QUOTE]
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