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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1881344" data-attributes="member: 13098">What an odd question to me!  I haven't purused the referenced thread, so I cannot comment in full.  But I don't think I have ever played in a game where one of the players was only playing because of her SO.  Let me scratch through memories...OK, in my early gaming years, let's say 1980 - early 1988, I didn't really game with any female players.  My sister and her friend would occasionaly try to play in our (WEG) Star Wars game, but they never wanted to really play more than a session or so before they would tire of their ewok characters.  (Roll-eyes smiley would be welcome right here.  What can I say?  They were 10 or so and we were just trying to be nice.)Around 1988 was when my friend and I joined a game with some complete strangers.  Had a blast!  One of the players was the DM's wife, but she played because she was a gamer.  As I understand it, the two of the met while gaming.  As well, she worked at the FLGS and she had a damned fine understanding of the rules.  I always considered her a damn fine roleplayer.  (Hey, Don and Oleeta, if you are reading this 'Hi'.  I hope you folks are doing well.  Call me Drake <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)  She was definitely not doing it just to be in *his* game.  Eventually he got a transfer and the game broke apart.But from that came my first experience with Champions (HERO).  A couple of the guys from the above group asked me to join them in their Champions game.  Yet another female gamer was to be found!  She knew HERO, and if you have ever looked at the HERO rules, I bet you can understand why I think of her as a gamer first.  Her and one of the guys hit it off and eventually got married.  Still, that was definitely not a case of her joining because of a SO.  After that, I joined up a game with another guy I worked with.  His wife played in the game.  She seemed adept at the game and all of us considered her a player first, DM's SO second.  In the same campaign, we had a couple join us as well as one of our female co-workers.  I think I can say "legitimate roleplayers" for all of them.After that game, I joined another with a couple of people I worked with.  The husbands of two of the women didn't play.  Another womand from work joined at the same time I did.  She had never gamed before, but had wanted to try it out.  I showed her some of the rules actually.  Later, she and I dated for a while, but she eventually left the game.  Later, one of the husands joined and he seemed to fit the "SO just playing to be with his wife" role.  Which is odd since he had gamed in college and from what I hear ran some good Gamma World games at one time.  He no longers plays.  I still play with that group.  I eventually met the woman who would become my wife.  She wanted to roleplay, but had never had much opportunity.  So, I put together some games for her.  Those were *her* games and at the time we were mostly just friends.  At one point I ran a DnD game with her, her sister, my sister, a female friend of mine and a male friend of mine.  At another time I was running a (WEG) Star Wars game for her, her sister, her sister's friend, my sister and a completely different male friend.  It was quite a treat to run an almost all-female game.  Later on, my wife volunteered me to run a game for the sons of some of her co-workers (all teachers).  She played in that game as did the mother of one of the guys, and the father of another.  Two women in that group, but again my wife was playing because she enjoys gaming.  That game crawled to death until those guys all got a bit older and less dependent on parents for rides.  It is the game I run right now.  Great game with some great players.  My wife dropped out when our daughter was born a few months back, but the sister of one of the guys is playing.  Definitely not a SO type thing there.I don't know, I haven't seen many examples of women playing just because a boyfriend or husband was playing.  I've seen women play cutthroat and ruthless as well as heroic and compassionate.  But almost every woman I have gamed with has been serious about the game. Whether they were giving it a try for the first time, or experienced die-hards was irrelevant.  They wanted to play, not just because somebody they were involved with was playing, but because they wanted to enjoy the game.  Maybe I have had unusual experiences?  I don't know.  But those are my expierences, oh great and noble Queen, such as I have seen them.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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