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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Afrodyte" data-source="post: 1889572" data-attributes="member: 8713">unsolicited opinion followsThis thread has taken a rather interesting turn.For me personally, a lot of what woodelf and fusangite are saying are not in any way related to my experience.  I never identified myself as geek even though I share a lot of interests and hobbies often associated with "geek culture."  Likewise, I do not label myself as goth despite being drawn to some of the aesthetics and ideas which permeate "goth culture."  Maybe it's just my experience, but I'd say that ethnicity, gender, and class have had a more profound effect upon my self-identification than a specific social predicament.  Have I struggled with confusion, alienation, and lack of self-esteem?  Sure.  Yet I never thought that geekiness in and of itself had anything to do with it.  I always ascribed it to my nature, my maturity (or lack thereof), the changes and upheaving going on in my life, and the insanity of mainstream society.</blockquote>