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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 8158504" data-attributes="member: 57112"><p>I didn't say that it wasn't well accepted. I said that it wasn't very good, so the former was a little puzzling to me. I, again, chalked it up to at least being quite a bit better than any previous DCEU efforts, the moment in which it came out, and how much it really <em>needed</em> to be successful. I suspect that history will be less kind to it, but that is mere speculation.</p><p></p><p>As to the Tomato, well, there's no accounting for taste. I'd imagine that that 84% audience rating is even lower than it ought to be, given the nature of review bombing and the types of products those actions tend to target. But they're also similar to the Tomato scores for Skyfall, an incredibly beloved Bond film that I considered to be total rubbish. So maybe I'm the weirdo (fwiw, I only thought the first WW was so-so, my partner <em>loathed</em> it).</p><p></p><p>Or maybe I'm bitter that it stole all the acclaim and adoration that the previous year's far superior but never given half a chance Ghostbusters reboot. Maybe the world was more ready to accept a female-led genre action movie with an incredibly physically attractive actress despite barely being able to emote while speaking. Maybe Feig hired the wrong Chris. Maybe they needed even more stupidly cartoonish villains. Maybe the action in the climax was a little too easy to follow. Maybe the world wasn't (and still isn't) ready to accept Kristen Wiig as a major star. Or maybe the intervening year and all that happened in it led audiences to be much more committed to allowing the movie to succeed.</p><p></p><p>I'd <em>guess</em> it's that last one, but the world will probably never know.</p><p></p><p>In any case, now that the future of female led (and female directed) genre films is more or less secure at this point, it does offer a bit of schadenfreude to watch the sequel taken to task for many of the same issues that, frankly, were wrong with the first one too (hell, WW84 even has actual somewhat compelling villains, rather than the Saturday morning cartoon villains of its predecessor, this time around too!) If it hadn't gone out of its way to crap all over the Middle East for no adequately explored reason, it might have even been better. By a little bit. Again, low bar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 8158504, member: 57112"] I didn't say that it wasn't well accepted. I said that it wasn't very good, so the former was a little puzzling to me. I, again, chalked it up to at least being quite a bit better than any previous DCEU efforts, the moment in which it came out, and how much it really [I]needed[/I] to be successful. I suspect that history will be less kind to it, but that is mere speculation. As to the Tomato, well, there's no accounting for taste. I'd imagine that that 84% audience rating is even lower than it ought to be, given the nature of review bombing and the types of products those actions tend to target. But they're also similar to the Tomato scores for Skyfall, an incredibly beloved Bond film that I considered to be total rubbish. So maybe I'm the weirdo (fwiw, I only thought the first WW was so-so, my partner [I]loathed[/I] it). Or maybe I'm bitter that it stole all the acclaim and adoration that the previous year's far superior but never given half a chance Ghostbusters reboot. Maybe the world was more ready to accept a female-led genre action movie with an incredibly physically attractive actress despite barely being able to emote while speaking. Maybe Feig hired the wrong Chris. Maybe they needed even more stupidly cartoonish villains. Maybe the action in the climax was a little too easy to follow. Maybe the world wasn't (and still isn't) ready to accept Kristen Wiig as a major star. Or maybe the intervening year and all that happened in it led audiences to be much more committed to allowing the movie to succeed. I'd [I]guess[/I] it's that last one, but the world will probably never know. In any case, now that the future of female led (and female directed) genre films is more or less secure at this point, it does offer a bit of schadenfreude to watch the sequel taken to task for many of the same issues that, frankly, were wrong with the first one too (hell, WW84 even has actual somewhat compelling villains, rather than the Saturday morning cartoon villains of its predecessor, this time around too!) If it hadn't gone out of its way to crap all over the Middle East for no adequately explored reason, it might have even been better. By a little bit. Again, low bar [/QUOTE]
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