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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 8199583" data-attributes="member: 58416"><p>I watched the movie again during the past weekend. My date hadn't seen it, so we went to the theater.</p><p></p><p>I hesitated to call WW84 "bad" before, but (after a second viewing) I think I am leaning toward saying it's an overall below-average movie. </p><p></p><p>There are a lot of things in the movie which work well. Chris Pine's fish-out-of-water comedy works well, and he has generally good chemistry with Gal Gadot. I also think that Pedro Pascal does a pretty good job of working with the material he was given.</p><p></p><p>At the same time, a lot of aspects of the movie seem disjointed. My impression (after watching the movie again) is that the movie tried to be too many different movies at once and fell somewhat short of doing any of them well. The opening sequel with young Dianna was pretty good; the movie was an okay-ish romantic comedy, an okay-ish "nerdy girl with glasses turns out to be hot" story, a somewhat less-than-good father-son story arc, and etc; but none of the component parts really stuck the landing. The parts which were good got lost in the shuffle of everything else going on. I'm not sure WW84 knows what kind of movie it is trying to be. </p><p></p><p>Things which stuck out as bad to me: the method of turning the jet invisible, a surprising number of racial/cultural stereotypes being used to drive plot, "flying" by lassoing the clouds, and a bunch of stuff in the middle of the movie which dragged enough that I literally nodded off for a moment.</p><p></p><p>Things which stuck out as good: The girl who played Young Dianna did a really good job, Chris Pine and Gal Gadot both do well with the material they have to work with, and Pedro Pascal seemed believable as his character. (The mall robbery scene and Gal's pose toward the end would have made a pretty cool Coke commercial.)</p><p></p><p>Misc Thoughts: The Astera story was cool, but it seemed mostly pointless beyond just being an excuse to put WW in a different outfit (and presumably attempt to sell merch based on the golden armor); various parts of the movie would have been really good in isolation, but didn't seem to connect to each other in a coherent way; and (despite having component parts which are enjoyable) I think the end result of the film taken as a whole falls short of reaching the heights of the first film or films like Shazam. I still don't think I would say the film is "bad," but I certainly wouldn't call it "good" either. There are parts of the film which are well done, but the overall effort leaves a lot to be desired, and I'm inclined to say that it does more to tilt the public view of DCs efforts more toward negatives than positives.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 8199583, member: 58416"] I watched the movie again during the past weekend. My date hadn't seen it, so we went to the theater. I hesitated to call WW84 "bad" before, but (after a second viewing) I think I am leaning toward saying it's an overall below-average movie. There are a lot of things in the movie which work well. Chris Pine's fish-out-of-water comedy works well, and he has generally good chemistry with Gal Gadot. I also think that Pedro Pascal does a pretty good job of working with the material he was given. At the same time, a lot of aspects of the movie seem disjointed. My impression (after watching the movie again) is that the movie tried to be too many different movies at once and fell somewhat short of doing any of them well. The opening sequel with young Dianna was pretty good; the movie was an okay-ish romantic comedy, an okay-ish "nerdy girl with glasses turns out to be hot" story, a somewhat less-than-good father-son story arc, and etc; but none of the component parts really stuck the landing. The parts which were good got lost in the shuffle of everything else going on. I'm not sure WW84 knows what kind of movie it is trying to be. Things which stuck out as bad to me: the method of turning the jet invisible, a surprising number of racial/cultural stereotypes being used to drive plot, "flying" by lassoing the clouds, and a bunch of stuff in the middle of the movie which dragged enough that I literally nodded off for a moment. Things which stuck out as good: The girl who played Young Dianna did a really good job, Chris Pine and Gal Gadot both do well with the material they have to work with, and Pedro Pascal seemed believable as his character. (The mall robbery scene and Gal's pose toward the end would have made a pretty cool Coke commercial.) Misc Thoughts: The Astera story was cool, but it seemed mostly pointless beyond just being an excuse to put WW in a different outfit (and presumably attempt to sell merch based on the golden armor); various parts of the movie would have been really good in isolation, but didn't seem to connect to each other in a coherent way; and (despite having component parts which are enjoyable) I think the end result of the film taken as a whole falls short of reaching the heights of the first film or films like Shazam. I still don't think I would say the film is "bad," but I certainly wouldn't call it "good" either. There are parts of the film which are well done, but the overall effort leaves a lot to be desired, and I'm inclined to say that it does more to tilt the public view of DCs efforts more toward negatives than positives. [/QUOTE]
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