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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6179176" data-attributes="member: 95493">I've been playing DnD since 2005. Not 40 years, certainly. In that time I have had opportunity to see 3e's, 4e's and PF's take on the same monster. Do you know what I can tell you? None of them are the same. They don't live in the same places, often times they don't even have the same alignments, looks or backgrounds.So, I guess my point is that they might want to make the game for someone who doesn't have 40 years of books already. Someone who MIGHT buy the books with rehashed (though obviously changed and updated for a new edition) monsters. I own the first monster manual (3.5) and two Bestiaries for pathfinder. Do you know what I don't own? All the other useless monster books and splatbooks. They don't help me at all. I don't find the monsters in them (except the rarest exceptions) to be unique or worth using. I need monsters I recognize and can easily slot into my existing game world. Ones that my players will recognize. I need orcs, and gnolls and goblins. I don't need random sea-creatures that are unknown. I don't need all 758 pokemon (or whatever it is up to these days). Those from the first game, maybe the second, are all I need to tell the story I want to tell. I expect many are the same. If there happens to be a few minor pokemon from later games that I want to introduce for whatever reason then I will, but I don't need to introduce all the others.Yes I want to spend 35 bucks for a new book. That is the point. It is a new system. What you are saying here may as well apply to the whole of the game system itself, and is equally non-helpful.[sarcasm] What on earth are you paying for? A new system? You want to spend $35 for  just mechanics and description? If that's true... then buy the book for the mechanics and description, and  ignore all the 5E 'stats'.  Go ahead and just use the character 'stats' from any previous player's handbook you own that you think  "got it right" and just ignore the mechanics and descriptions in the 5E book.  The 4E  book, or 3.5 book, or 3.0 book, or 2E book or AD&D book or Rules  Cyclopedia book or whatever. [/sarcasm]Seems as silly to me. Personally I want to buy a book for the whole package. I want all of those elements to be good. That's why it matters DEFCON 1.It is about being internally consistent. If a description for a monster is tied to some random curse that you should break, then that strikes me as an adventure path as opposed to a monster description. It would be like the description of the devils being tied to the souls he torments and about the contracts he made, implying the players should go out and free all those souls. It is a good adventure to give a boost. But it also doesn't really (to me) belong in the MM. I think the devil description should be more along the lines of WHAT the character is. Now what heir background is. But maybe that's just me. I just need a clean, clear description that I can use, reflavour, or otherwise ignore. All the "adventure" stuff seems to belong in another place, IMHO.</blockquote>

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