Wonderous Item Formula

BlackSeed_Vash

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Can any one show me the formula(s) Wizards used for pricing the Quiver of Ehlonna, the Heward's Handy Haversack, or the Bag of Endless Caltrops. I am trying to design something along these lines, but I just can't seem to get my head around the price.
 

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Let's start off with a queston... what is the ratio of the cost of the created item to the cost of the magical item, and what is the cost of the created item?
 

Its not the design of the magic item I am having problems with, its the cost. Using table 7-33 on pg 285 of DMG, the cost is way out of proportion compared to the items I listed. And considering I am using the same spell Leomund's Secret Chest, caster lvl, etc to fullfill a similar functioning item. I simply want the formula(s) used for the items listed so I have a better idea how to properly generate the formula for my item.
 

There's a note in the item creation guidelines to the effect that the formulas are a starting point, not the end-all, be-all of balance.

For example, a command-word item of Cure Minor Wounds (caster level 1, spell level 0.5, command word - 1*0.5*1800=900 gp) is within the price range of even a 1st level character... but it breaks the balance of combat classes (infinite healing, free of continuing charge, outside combat - a minute, and a 1st level character is fully healed. Ten, and a 10th level character is healed. Half an hour, and a 20th level character is fully healed.) Such an item is more useful than the guidelines suggest.

A Ring of Invisibility is listed at 20,000 gp. It's caster level 3, and a 2nd level spell. Command-word, that would be estimated at 2*3*1800=10,800 gp. Continuous, that would be listed as 2*3*2000*2=24,000. It's priced somewhere in between... but it has to be activated, and it's "as the spell" so theoretically it's a command-word item. It does not follow either set of guidelines. Invisibility at will is more useful than the guidelines suggest.

Bags of Holding, the Quiver of Elhonia, Heward's handy Haversack, and Portable holes aren't priced by guidelines. They're priced by expected usefulness.
 


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