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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 2653123" data-attributes="member: 1288"><p>I've yet to see any argument convince me that it's actually broken. A lot of people see the "any divine spell" detail and have a knee-jerk reaction, but consider the following:</p><p></p><p>The archivist only automatically gets spells from the cleric list. He has to find or purchase scrolls or scribed versions of spells from any other divine class. That means, assuming book-value leve of treasure, the more broad his range of spells, the less other equipment and magic he's going to have. Scribing spells is expensive.</p><p></p><p>The archivist cannot draw from the arcane list, and there are a lot of potent spells that simply do not appear on any divine list. Even if you do allow domain spells, there's a select number of those. (And the whole "scribing an arcane spell as a divine spell by including a cleric in the process is just silly. I don't really care if the rules technically allow it, there's no way it's anything but an accidental oversight.)</p><p></p><p>The archivist has bad BAB, lower hit points than a cleric, worse armor proficiency than a cleric, and cannot spontaneously cure. He's absolutely never going to be replacing the cleric as the "front-line caster." That makes a lot of the cleric and paladin buffing/weapon-related spells less useful to him. He's less versatile that the cleric, because clerics can prepare any spell from their list, and it's unlikely the archivist will have that many spells in his book. And because he doesn't have access to many arcane spells, he's also never going to replace the sorcerer/wizard as the artillery platform.</p><p></p><p>No turn undead, and therefore no divine feats.</p><p></p><p>No domain abilities.</p><p></p><p>Fewer spells per day than clerics.</p><p></p><p>I just don't see how it's unbalanced, honestly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 2653123, member: 1288"] I've yet to see any argument convince me that it's actually broken. A lot of people see the "any divine spell" detail and have a knee-jerk reaction, but consider the following: The archivist only automatically gets spells from the cleric list. He has to find or purchase scrolls or scribed versions of spells from any other divine class. That means, assuming book-value leve of treasure, the more broad his range of spells, the less other equipment and magic he's going to have. Scribing spells is expensive. The archivist cannot draw from the arcane list, and there are a lot of potent spells that simply do not appear on any divine list. Even if you do allow domain spells, there's a select number of those. (And the whole "scribing an arcane spell as a divine spell by including a cleric in the process is just silly. I don't really care if the rules technically allow it, there's no way it's anything but an accidental oversight.) The archivist has bad BAB, lower hit points than a cleric, worse armor proficiency than a cleric, and cannot spontaneously cure. He's absolutely never going to be replacing the cleric as the "front-line caster." That makes a lot of the cleric and paladin buffing/weapon-related spells less useful to him. He's less versatile that the cleric, because clerics can prepare any spell from their list, and it's unlikely the archivist will have that many spells in his book. And because he doesn't have access to many arcane spells, he's also never going to replace the sorcerer/wizard as the artillery platform. No turn undead, and therefore no divine feats. No domain abilities. Fewer spells per day than clerics. I just don't see how it's unbalanced, honestly. [/QUOTE]
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