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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 553375" data-attributes="member: 5171">Re: Re: Woohoo! And questions...Heh. S'a good point. I kept veering between "It's just a club" and "But it's better than a policeman's nightstick", which is what they describe. Maybe if someone blows a bunch of money on a REALLY GOOD bat, I'll make it masterwork. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Thanks for the opinion.Spades?Probably the wrong word. Go into a hardware store and look for something like a weed-digger-outer, a pronged doodad that you thrust into soft ground and yank back and forth to get to the roots of the weeds. Some of them look like forks. A sai was the ancient version of this, until some pinhead samurai decided to test out his katana on the locals. Those tines, which work so well at trapping blades, were originally for rooting out weeds."Spade" was the closest word I had offhand."For example, a regular pitchfork is basically a tree limb with small, curved branches which acts as tines (or prongs) , a military fork is crafted using metal (bronze, iron, or steel) and have straight tines. That's an excellent point -- and if my campaign were in ancient Asia, I'd concede. But if my campaign is in the modern U.S. of A., the pitchfork I buy from Orchard Supply Hardware is going to be a well-balanced instrument of destruction, with a comfortable rubber grip, smoothly curving stainless steel tines, and a money-back guarantee.Really. (And I'm being tongue-in-cheek here -- no offense is intended, and I hope I'm not coming off that way.  Just making sure.) My martial art makes us choose new weapons to learn -- any weapon, ANYTHING. And we learn another weapon for each belt rank after first black. The first few belts, I ordered expensive weapons from magazines. Most of them ended up being garbage, suitable for wall-hanging at best. For a well-balanced weapon meant to take a beating, I was better off going to the hardware store and hunting around for a gardening tool with some sharp pokey bits that I could adapt as a weapon.I guess my point is that if my players are running from zombies and they stumble into an old shed, and one of them grabs an old rusted pitchfork whose tines are loose on the haft, I'm gonna say, "Yep, it's large, and it does 1d6 piercing, and it's a piece of garbage, so you're at -4 to hit," just like any improvised weapon.But if they're putting some thought into it, I want to reward them. A newly bought, high-quality pitchfork should be a bit better.-Tacky</blockquote>

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