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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 888609" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p><strong>Re: Re: Names????</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>French is great in that, when you see a word, you know how to pronounce it (exceptions are rare, and they usually involve conjuguing a verb, or using a foreign word).</p><p></p><p>Hence I can proudly say I pronounce them:</p><p></p><p>Baatezu, Tanar'ri and Yugoloth (oh, and Gehreleth too, with the exception I prefer to use a hard 'g' as in "gorilla" rather than as in "genius", it sounds better that way).</p><p></p><p>Re: Qlippoth. The name comes straight from the Kabbalah. They are the 7 (IIRC, but not sure) steps on the inverted Tree of Life. It means "shell" or "husk".</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.google.fr/search?q=qlippoth" target="_blank">Use the Google, Luke</a></p><p></p><p>Here's one <a href="http://www.polarissite.net/TOL/qlippoth.htm" target="_blank">page</a> found with the Power of the Google that seems quite relevant to the discussion.</p><p></p><p>Re: Baal. Baal wasn't really a name, rather a noun. It meant "Master". Of course, the "master" of foreigners could only be a devil for the early Jews. That peculiar form of religious intolerance was later inherited by the daughter-religions of judaism (that's why the Christian satan is a goatboy, rather than a snake, it was to diabolize Pan -- the snake itself was probably to diabolize the ourobouros of even older myths).</p><p></p><p>Re: Baatezu. Baatezu and Baator were coined at the same time, and this is why they seem consistent. The -zu suffix is used for several devils -- amnizu, uridezu, etc. The "baa" part was probably indeed to echo Baal.</p><p></p><p>Re: Tanar'ri. That construction, on the other hand, is less well-made IMHO. Besides, it sounds to me too much like canaris (canary), tamaris (<a href="http://www.aujardin.info/plantes/tamaris.php" target="_blank">pink-flowered plants, hadn't found name in English</a>) or panaris (whitlow).</p><p></p><p>Re: Yugoloth. Apart from sounding like Yugoslavia (Gehenan powederkeg ?), that name really is funny. Just look how it was coined (yeah, I'm sure of it): Yoghurt -> Yughort -> Yugorth -> Yugoroth -> Yugoloth. The coiner of that word was probably lactose-intolerant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 888609, member: 1328"] [b]Re: Re: Names????[/b] French is great in that, when you see a word, you know how to pronounce it (exceptions are rare, and they usually involve conjuguing a verb, or using a foreign word). Hence I can proudly say I pronounce them: Baatezu, Tanar'ri and Yugoloth (oh, and Gehreleth too, with the exception I prefer to use a hard 'g' as in "gorilla" rather than as in "genius", it sounds better that way). Re: Qlippoth. The name comes straight from the Kabbalah. They are the 7 (IIRC, but not sure) steps on the inverted Tree of Life. It means "shell" or "husk". [url=http://www.google.fr/search?q=qlippoth]Use the Google, Luke[/url] Here's one [url=http://www.polarissite.net/TOL/qlippoth.htm]page[/url] found with the Power of the Google that seems quite relevant to the discussion. Re: Baal. Baal wasn't really a name, rather a noun. It meant "Master". Of course, the "master" of foreigners could only be a devil for the early Jews. That peculiar form of religious intolerance was later inherited by the daughter-religions of judaism (that's why the Christian satan is a goatboy, rather than a snake, it was to diabolize Pan -- the snake itself was probably to diabolize the ourobouros of even older myths). Re: Baatezu. Baatezu and Baator were coined at the same time, and this is why they seem consistent. The -zu suffix is used for several devils -- amnizu, uridezu, etc. The "baa" part was probably indeed to echo Baal. Re: Tanar'ri. That construction, on the other hand, is less well-made IMHO. Besides, it sounds to me too much like canaris (canary), tamaris ([url=http://www.aujardin.info/plantes/tamaris.php]pink-flowered plants, hadn't found name in English[/url]) or panaris (whitlow). Re: Yugoloth. Apart from sounding like Yugoslavia (Gehenan powederkeg ?), that name really is funny. Just look how it was coined (yeah, I'm sure of it): Yoghurt -> Yughort -> Yugorth -> Yugoroth -> Yugoloth. The coiner of that word was probably lactose-intolerant. [/QUOTE]
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