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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sabrinathecat" data-source="post: 6186457" data-attributes="member: 89838">I'd rather have a new pronoun specifically for indeterminate than to incorrectly use plural. If the Language institutions can agree on one, fine, I'll use it. Until then, you may not like the 18th century rules, but they are the rules. If you don't like it, try Esperanto or Japanese, or a language which doesn't really use possessives or gender or personal pronouns.I can't help but notice that the first few of the articles I read from the links are just as obnoxious and condescending as the people they target. Funny that. And of course, many of the sources sited are from times that either predate any attempt to standardize (Chaucer) or poet playwrights (Shakespeare) for whom some latitude must be allowed (also for the fact that both of them were frickin' brilliant). And then there's the King James bible, which can be dismissed out of hand as a source for anything, seeing as how there are gross mistranslations rife in it because James wanted to use the Bible as a political weapon (most infamous being "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live", because King James wanted to wipe out any non-catholic practice, so "Witch" was used instead of "Poisoner of the Blood"--aka Court Assassin).Oh, technically, the plural of Octopus should be Octopodes, because otherwise you'd be mixing greek and latin, which you aren't supposed to do, but then we have words like "macadamize" which combines Scottish with Hebrew with... oh, never mind.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm    :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /></blockquote>

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