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<blockquote data-quote="Chris_Nightwing" data-source="post: 5965734" data-attributes="member: 882">I liked that 3E gave monsters types and subtypes that made it clear how they advanced with hit dice. I also appreciated that 4E gave monsters types that made it clear what sort of thing they would do in combat.I think my overall preference is dependent on how I see PCs and monsters in the world. I prefer that PCs are not unique in taking class levels. Not everyone does because they aren't good enough, or they aren't trained or chosen, but if you're an ordinary commoner you should be able to gain hit dice and get a few small benefits from this. Monsters should advance in a similar way, gaining whatever numbers and powers suit their 'type'. By type, I prefer 'dragons', 'animals', 'goblinoids' - to me, this is a monsters 'class'. I also think the 4E types can play a role though, as a template.So a goblin sniper would primarily be a goblin, with some number of hit dice to tell you how advanced he is, but would then have artillery as a template, adjusting his attacks/defences and perhaps giving him a special attack. Why this way round and not the other? Because I think advanced goblin snipers should be more like other advanced goblins than advanced mephit fire-spitters.Edit: I'll just add that with flat math, the only advancement might be HP, damage and abilities. HP should probably go up with combat role, damage similarly, and abilities.. more on the creature than role side there for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chris_Nightwing, post: 5965734, member: 882"] I liked that 3E gave monsters types and subtypes that made it clear how they advanced with hit dice. I also appreciated that 4E gave monsters types that made it clear what sort of thing they would do in combat. I think my overall preference is dependent on how I see PCs and monsters in the world. I prefer that PCs are not unique in taking class levels. Not everyone does because they aren't good enough, or they aren't trained or chosen, but if you're an ordinary commoner you should be able to gain hit dice and get a few small benefits from this. Monsters should advance in a similar way, gaining whatever numbers and powers suit their 'type'. By type, I prefer 'dragons', 'animals', 'goblinoids' - to me, this is a monsters 'class'. I also think the 4E types can play a role though, as a template. So a goblin sniper would primarily be a goblin, with some number of hit dice to tell you how advanced he is, but would then have artillery as a template, adjusting his attacks/defences and perhaps giving him a special attack. Why this way round and not the other? Because I think advanced goblin snipers should be more like other advanced goblins than advanced mephit fire-spitters. Edit: I'll just add that with flat math, the only advancement might be HP, damage and abilities. HP should probably go up with combat role, damage similarly, and abilities.. more on the creature than role side there for me. [/QUOTE]

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