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<blockquote data-quote="Grogg of the North" data-source="post: 7020293" data-attributes="member: 6682960">The groups I've been in, and ones I've run, always went with an indefinite duration for use Rebuke Undead to command them.&nbsp;@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6669384" target="_blank">Greenfield</a>, I personally love the pale master and really want to play one again.&nbsp; That first level is a bit rough but I, personally, feel it's worth it.&nbsp; The graft and its abilities are great.&nbsp; Bonus immunities are always welcome.&nbsp; And a free cohort!&nbsp; Yay!&nbsp; The only thing that I don't like is the undead armor affinity.&nbsp; There are only a few undead armors and in Libris Mortis they are so expensive!&nbsp; While the Magic Item Compendium brought down the prices for these armors they also gutted a lot of their abilities.&nbsp; I'd personally had preferred if they kept with the way it was in 3.0 were the Pale Master got a natural armor bonus that scaled with class level.&nbsp; Now, the big thing.&nbsp; You have Animate Dead as a SLA once per day.&nbsp; Which means, you can, with time on your side, raise an army of the dead free of charge.&nbsp; So you can have lots of skeletons guarding your valley.&nbsp; Again, you're going to want to do this in a desecrated area.&nbsp; Command Undead is essentially a charm spell for intelligent undead.&nbsp; I would be careful using that since an intelligent undead may resent you for using that.&nbsp; You wouldn't want a mummy turning on you when you least expect it!I would probably build a LE Necromancer 5 / Pale Master 5; follower of Wee Jas.&nbsp; She's cool with (willing) undead and so are you.&nbsp; If advancing to 12th level, continue with Pale Master.&nbsp; Grab the Skeletal Minion alternate class feature on the SRD for more necromancy goodness.&nbsp; Then use the obtain Familiar feat to let it scale off your caster level instead of your necromancer level.&nbsp; For feats, you'll want Corpsecrafter.&nbsp; The entire chain is pretty fun so I would pick up whatever strikes your fancy.&nbsp; I don't know how much you want to grab from Libris Mortis if your group sticks mostly to the PHB.&nbsp; Spell Focus is debatable.&nbsp; There are lot of necromancy spells that are either save negates or the save reduces the effect (1 round vs several; exhausted reduced to fatigued; etc).&nbsp; Hope that helps!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Grogg of the North, post: 7020293, member: 6682960"] The groups I've been in, and ones I've run, always went with an indefinite duration for use Rebuke Undead to command them. @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6669384"]Greenfield[/URL][/U][/B][/I], I personally love the pale master and really want to play one again. That first level is a bit rough but I, personally, feel it's worth it. The graft and its abilities are great. Bonus immunities are always welcome. And a free cohort! Yay! The only thing that I don't like is the undead armor affinity. There are only a few undead armors and in Libris Mortis they are so expensive! While the Magic Item Compendium brought down the prices for these armors they also gutted a lot of their abilities. I'd personally had preferred if they kept with the way it was in 3.0 were the Pale Master got a natural armor bonus that scaled with class level. Now, the big thing. You have Animate Dead as a SLA once per day. Which means, you can, with time on your side, raise an army of the dead free of charge. So you can have lots of skeletons guarding your valley. Again, you're going to want to do this in a desecrated area. Command Undead is essentially a charm spell for intelligent undead. I would be careful using that since an intelligent undead may resent you for using that. You wouldn't want a mummy turning on you when you least expect it! I would probably build a LE Necromancer 5 / Pale Master 5; follower of Wee Jas. She's cool with (willing) undead and so are you. If advancing to 12th level, continue with Pale Master. Grab the Skeletal Minion alternate class feature on the SRD for more necromancy goodness. Then use the obtain Familiar feat to let it scale off your caster level instead of your necromancer level. For feats, you'll want Corpsecrafter. The entire chain is pretty fun so I would pick up whatever strikes your fancy. I don't know how much you want to grab from Libris Mortis if your group sticks mostly to the PHB. Spell Focus is debatable. There are lot of necromancy spells that are either save negates or the save reduces the effect (1 round vs several; exhausted reduced to fatigued; etc). Hope that helps! [/QUOTE]

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