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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 8081833" data-attributes="member: 1165">I like the idea of a warlord full class in 5e. Since it's not 4e it doesn't need healing. I'm not a fan of D&amp;D without &quot;gods&quot; (or equivalent, looking at you Eberron) except for Dark Sun, which was quite different and made magical healing available without gods.It also fits very few archetypes from fantasy fiction. Even Aragorn could not heal people in combat (he could just keep them from dying when they got poisoned by a magic weapon, using herbal lore rather than morale management).The 4e warlord got healing because 4e leaders heal. This was important to 4e, but not any other editions.I could be wrong but this is probably the second-most controversial part of the warlord beyond the healing. While there's definitely a flavor overlap I simply cannot see this as using the same chassis as a more typical warlord. I also don't think it attracts people who like to roll dice. I contrast it negatively with the 4e cleric: most cleric buffs were either part of an attack (even if it was an effect, so you got to buff allies if you missed) or it was a minor action (so the cleric could still dish out something themselves).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 8081833, member: 1165"] I like the idea of a warlord full class in 5e. Since it's not 4e it doesn't need healing. I'm not a fan of D&D without "gods" (or equivalent, looking at you Eberron) except for Dark Sun, which was quite different and made [i]magical[/i] healing available without gods. It also fits very few archetypes from fantasy fiction. Even Aragorn could not heal people in combat (he could just keep them from dying when they got poisoned by a magic weapon, using herbal lore rather than morale management). The 4e warlord got healing because 4e leaders heal. This was important to 4e, but not any other editions. I could be wrong but this is probably the second-most controversial part of the warlord beyond the healing. While there's definitely a flavor overlap I simply cannot see this as using the same chassis as a more typical warlord. I also don't think it attracts people who like to roll dice. I contrast it negatively with the 4e cleric: most cleric buffs were either part of an attack (even if it was an effect, so you got to buff allies if you missed) or it was a minor action (so the cleric could still dish out something themselves). [/QUOTE]

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