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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngainlyTitan" data-source="post: 8549181" data-attributes="member: 28487">Arguing about the travel time or rules is kind of missing the point. Which evidently I was not sufficiently clear about in the OP.But it is more cost and time effective in the Rules (per Xanathar's for crafting) to create an item that replicated the effect than to use the spells as given.That and comparing the costs of making those spell permanent and the costs of items and scroll make very little sense either, other than gatekeeping. The DM can do gatekeeping.</blockquote>