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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 8125992" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>No this isn't the lesson at all from Socrates. First off, this story comes to us through written text. Plato wrote it down, and he must have been aware of the irony of doing so. I think we could have a long conversation about what this story really means (and it has been a while since i have read it). But my take from it was never, 'bad things might happen so we shouldn't allow technology to advance" (as I have said again and again, I am no luddite). But rather, technological advances often have unforeseen consequences and we need to reflect on those and make our decisions about advancements in ways that are not reckless or thoughtless. And we also need to think about what might be lost in the process (in socrates case, he was worried about the loss of knowledge that is transmitted face to face, through living conversation). </p><p></p><p>No, a period of upheaval is not the same as a time of change. A period of upheaval means things like disorder, pain, feuds, violence, collapse of institutions, etc. I was specifically talking about religious wars. As much as I love the printing press, I have to acknowledge the downside in terms of human lives and suffering in the form of violent religious conflict. It is something to be aware of, especially when we have seen that social media plays a role in not just creative fields but political and military fields (and even revolutions have sprung up around things like twitter). These are not minor things. I think it is pretty obvious that social media and the internet is having a profound impact on society. Just like it is folly to dismiss all change as bad. It is equal folly to embrace all change as good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 8125992, member: 85555"] No this isn't the lesson at all from Socrates. First off, this story comes to us through written text. Plato wrote it down, and he must have been aware of the irony of doing so. I think we could have a long conversation about what this story really means (and it has been a while since i have read it). But my take from it was never, 'bad things might happen so we shouldn't allow technology to advance" (as I have said again and again, I am no luddite). But rather, technological advances often have unforeseen consequences and we need to reflect on those and make our decisions about advancements in ways that are not reckless or thoughtless. And we also need to think about what might be lost in the process (in socrates case, he was worried about the loss of knowledge that is transmitted face to face, through living conversation). No, a period of upheaval is not the same as a time of change. A period of upheaval means things like disorder, pain, feuds, violence, collapse of institutions, etc. I was specifically talking about religious wars. As much as I love the printing press, I have to acknowledge the downside in terms of human lives and suffering in the form of violent religious conflict. It is something to be aware of, especially when we have seen that social media plays a role in not just creative fields but political and military fields (and even revolutions have sprung up around things like twitter). These are not minor things. I think it is pretty obvious that social media and the internet is having a profound impact on society. Just like it is folly to dismiss all change as bad. It is equal folly to embrace all change as good. [/QUOTE]
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