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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7853065" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'm familiar with what happened in a very broad outline, but being American had never done a lot of reading about Canada (sorry Canadians). In the brief survey, I didn't really find anything I didn't expect. The broad outline is similar to what I know of Australia, some aspects of American history, and finds parallels in the Soviet treatment of indigenous Asian tribes or the present treatment by the government of China of its indigenous minority groups or in the present day Turkish treatment of the Kurds.</p><p></p><p>Which is to say that I've no doubt that a great deal of injustice went down, and lots of acts were committed that were horrible and regrettable. There is a different but also very broken relationship between the "First Nations" and the US Government.</p><p></p><p>A full discussion of what I think of these things is well beyond the bounds of EnWorld. There are a ton of complexities that aren't really relevant to a discussion that is ultimately about what it means to be respectful in an RPG that is inspired by real world cultures, but I'll get into them if (for example) people persist in adhering to the (I believe false) "permission" argument.</p><p></p><p>That this all ties to my statement about how what it means to have an ethnicity and what it means to be a 'nation' has radically transformed in the last 200 years, and we collectively as a human race haven't figured out how to adapt to that. The Canadians, for better or worse (seemingly more for the worse), were trying to figure out what to do about this new notion, where as the older model that worked for humanity back into prehistory was for the stronger tribe to just wipe out the weaker one, and maybe take the surviving women as slaves/concubines. Now that we are trying to live together and end the cycle of one darn genocide after the other that has been human history, we don't know how to do it. I personally think "multiculturalism" is a well-meaning but false and inadequate answer, but I also freely admit I don't know what the full answer is.</p><p></p><p>It's got something to do with Tolerance though, of that I'm sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7853065, member: 4937"] I'm familiar with what happened in a very broad outline, but being American had never done a lot of reading about Canada (sorry Canadians). In the brief survey, I didn't really find anything I didn't expect. The broad outline is similar to what I know of Australia, some aspects of American history, and finds parallels in the Soviet treatment of indigenous Asian tribes or the present treatment by the government of China of its indigenous minority groups or in the present day Turkish treatment of the Kurds. Which is to say that I've no doubt that a great deal of injustice went down, and lots of acts were committed that were horrible and regrettable. There is a different but also very broken relationship between the "First Nations" and the US Government. A full discussion of what I think of these things is well beyond the bounds of EnWorld. There are a ton of complexities that aren't really relevant to a discussion that is ultimately about what it means to be respectful in an RPG that is inspired by real world cultures, but I'll get into them if (for example) people persist in adhering to the (I believe false) "permission" argument. That this all ties to my statement about how what it means to have an ethnicity and what it means to be a 'nation' has radically transformed in the last 200 years, and we collectively as a human race haven't figured out how to adapt to that. The Canadians, for better or worse (seemingly more for the worse), were trying to figure out what to do about this new notion, where as the older model that worked for humanity back into prehistory was for the stronger tribe to just wipe out the weaker one, and maybe take the surviving women as slaves/concubines. Now that we are trying to live together and end the cycle of one darn genocide after the other that has been human history, we don't know how to do it. I personally think "multiculturalism" is a well-meaning but false and inadequate answer, but I also freely admit I don't know what the full answer is. It's got something to do with Tolerance though, of that I'm sure. [/QUOTE]
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