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<blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7854007" data-attributes="member: 6688277"><p>I can assure you there is no <em>sleight of hand</em> on my part. You might have missed my use of the word "perhaps" upthread which was meant to indicate my uncertainty on this topic and hence this conversation is very much discovery - for myself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah thanks. Yes I had the concern that I was muddling things in my mind.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I do not have any issue with this. Our initial conversation started over your comment that respect would be first thought before tolerance. I wanted to say this then, but I will say this now - as I started thinking about that I kind of got into the chicken and egg dilemma. Does tolerance for others come first before auto respect or do we respect all before we tolerate?</p><p></p><p>Correct me if I'm wrong but I find in your equation - tolerance doesn't even enter the picture.</p><p></p><p>However having said all that - I find you polarise the issue by making comments like</p><p>"do flagrantly insulting things to their face" and "complete jerk" like it is either the one or the other.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps I identify being respectful as "going out of your way" and you might not, hence you make such a black and white distinction on the choices that are available.</p><p></p><p>So for instance using rather crude examples</p><p>(1) In a queue at a supermarket. I am ahead of someone with only 1 item while I have plenty.</p><p>I allow the person with 1 item to go ahead of me. Is it disrespectful of me not to let them go first - I mean can you equate that with "complete jerk" and "do flagrantly insulting things to their face"</p><p></p><p>(2) Elder gets on bus and stands due to no availability of seats. A youngster does not offer up their seat for the elder. Is that on par with "do flagrantly insulting things to their face" and "complete jerk". I might go with jerk. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I have rambled somewhat - but hoping the position I'm coming from is clearer to you and [USER=57112]@Gradine[/USER].</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sadras, post: 7854007, member: 6688277"] I can assure you there is no [I]sleight of hand[/I] on my part. You might have missed my use of the word "perhaps" upthread which was meant to indicate my uncertainty on this topic and hence this conversation is very much discovery - for myself. Ah thanks. Yes I had the concern that I was muddling things in my mind. I do not have any issue with this. Our initial conversation started over your comment that respect would be first thought before tolerance. I wanted to say this then, but I will say this now - as I started thinking about that I kind of got into the chicken and egg dilemma. Does tolerance for others come first before auto respect or do we respect all before we tolerate? Correct me if I'm wrong but I find in your equation - tolerance doesn't even enter the picture. However having said all that - I find you polarise the issue by making comments like "do flagrantly insulting things to their face" and "complete jerk" like it is either the one or the other. Perhaps I identify being respectful as "going out of your way" and you might not, hence you make such a black and white distinction on the choices that are available. So for instance using rather crude examples (1) In a queue at a supermarket. I am ahead of someone with only 1 item while I have plenty. I allow the person with 1 item to go ahead of me. Is it disrespectful of me not to let them go first - I mean can you equate that with "complete jerk" and "do flagrantly insulting things to their face" (2) Elder gets on bus and stands due to no availability of seats. A youngster does not offer up their seat for the elder. Is that on par with "do flagrantly insulting things to their face" and "complete jerk". I might go with jerk. :) I have rambled somewhat - but hoping the position I'm coming from is clearer to you and [USER=57112]@Gradine[/USER]. [/QUOTE]
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