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World of Farland Now Embraces Asian, African, and Indian Cultures
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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7854231" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>I think I can describe now how it isn't.....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That is... very Orson Scott Card. Given how many cultures have the Golden Rule, though, it is also very probably incorrect, at least among our fellow humans.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just as there are two things we refer to as "respect"* There are actually two things we call "tolerance".</p><p></p><p>Tolerance Type 1 - Putting up with your B.S. When a co-worker is really great to be around, works hard, and is helpful, I may tolerate their habit of reheating fish in the office microwave. We do not owe each other this - it is a thing we may extend for our own reasons, because we are under duress, or the like.</p><p></p><p>Tolerance Type 2 - Recognition that having a different a different opinion, tradition, belief system, likes/dislikes, orientation, or the like does not mean someone should not have my Respect**.</p><p></p><p>So, really, the tolerance we are (or at least I am) discussing is itself about maintaining basic respect. So, Respect comes first. </p><p></p><p>A drunken fratboy in facepaint and a feathered headdress, stumbling through a "war dance" - that's B.S. and we have no need to put up with that behavior.</p><p></p><p>The German larpers? If they are hopping around all, "Whee! I am a Noble Savage!" that's B.S., and we don't need to put up with it. If they are not using it to display cultural dominance, are putting in significant amounts of research and trying to do this respectfully - There's a choice to be made as to whether that behavior should be allowed to continue. I don't claim to be the one to make that choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*for clarity: Type 1 - earned, and Type 2 - your inherent due as a feeling, sentient being.</p><p></p><p>**Resolving Popper's Paradox - when your belief or behavior is about not having Respect or Tolerance Type 2, it qualifies as B.S., and I don't have to put up with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7854231, member: 177"] I think I can describe now how it isn't..... That is... very Orson Scott Card. Given how many cultures have the Golden Rule, though, it is also very probably incorrect, at least among our fellow humans. Just as there are two things we refer to as "respect"* There are actually two things we call "tolerance". Tolerance Type 1 - Putting up with your B.S. When a co-worker is really great to be around, works hard, and is helpful, I may tolerate their habit of reheating fish in the office microwave. We do not owe each other this - it is a thing we may extend for our own reasons, because we are under duress, or the like. Tolerance Type 2 - Recognition that having a different a different opinion, tradition, belief system, likes/dislikes, orientation, or the like does not mean someone should not have my Respect**. So, really, the tolerance we are (or at least I am) discussing is itself about maintaining basic respect. So, Respect comes first. A drunken fratboy in facepaint and a feathered headdress, stumbling through a "war dance" - that's B.S. and we have no need to put up with that behavior. The German larpers? If they are hopping around all, "Whee! I am a Noble Savage!" that's B.S., and we don't need to put up with it. If they are not using it to display cultural dominance, are putting in significant amounts of research and trying to do this respectfully - There's a choice to be made as to whether that behavior should be allowed to continue. I don't claim to be the one to make that choice. *for clarity: Type 1 - earned, and Type 2 - your inherent due as a feeling, sentient being. **Resolving Popper's Paradox - when your belief or behavior is about not having Respect or Tolerance Type 2, it qualifies as B.S., and I don't have to put up with it. [/QUOTE]
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