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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2944979" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, would you then get angry at football?  If not, then Flexor's point is not so far out.  Kae'Yoss - Heh, I'm trying to be tactful here.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  I have no idea of the specifics of your group, so, I'm just going with what's here.  Sounds like the group just has some very different priorities.  Move on and get new players.  But, yeah, it is true what we'll put up with just to play.  Having just excused myself from a campaign I can feel your pain.  First time I've ever done it, but, I just stopped having fun in that game.  Kept going with it for a few months before I finally decided to end it.  I think it's still groovy with the DM.  We talked back and forth and parted amicably.Gaming life would be a lot easier if people would actually take the time to communicate.  For a group of people whose hobby centers on playing a role and being able to express that role verbally, there's an awful lot of butt heads out there.</blockquote>