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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2953836" data-attributes="member: 151">This is not a function of the game, but a function of the players, IMHO.Of my current group of seven regular players, five of them play CoH/CoV.  Two of them play WoW.  Three of them played EQII (but grew tired of it quickly) and five of them played the first EQ for years, even as four of us played AC for years.  I myself am a heavy player of CoH/CoV and used to play AC, though I considered WoW, I opted for CoH instead.Our D&D game has been uninterupted for six years.  It takes priority over any and all online games.  On one occasion, a player actually carried a pager so he could be notified when an Epic spawn in EQ...but he still showed up at the game.  I didn't see a problem with it then and I don't see a problem with it now.  He's one of my most dedicated players and a good friend.  I think part of the problem with the game you were in (and the reason that it disintegrated) is that you weren't really friends with the other players, from the sound of it.  D&D is a social activity, and that counts for as much as the actual game itself, IMHO.  If we digress for five minutes into talking about our kids or the latest video game or politics or which flavor of Ben and Jerry's is the best or whether 15 year-old Balvenie is markedly better than 10 year-old Balvenie....that's fine.  We're there to game, but we're not ONLY there to game.CoH and WoW provide fundementally different experiences from D&D....but that's not bad.  In the same way that I enjoy Settlers of Catan differently from Mercenaries differently from D&D.  They are all different games that bring different things to the table.  Some days you want to battle a deposed Suel Emperor in the Deep Ethereal...other days you just want to beat the snot out of a giant squid.  Each offers it's own rewards.  You might look at a WoW raid (which I've never been on, btw) and see a boring tactical exercise in repitition....others see it as a well-honed team executing a plan against tough odds in concert like a finely-tuned instrument.  You could look at an MMORPG and see a lack of role-playing, while I could look at it and see a sandbox where players invent their own social systems and constructs in-game.There's a great screenshot that someone put up in their blog of visiting a large church in WoW as part of a simple quest.  When he entered, he found a number of people being indoctrinated into a guild in an elaborate ceremony with the guild elders, with them kneeling and being given tabards and so forth.  Does WoW or NWN or any number of games offer the same host of options and breadth of variety?  No, they don't.  But Whizbang Dustyboots point was that most RPGs don't really offer that either, when you get down to it.  The potential exists, certainly...but I don't know many folks who had really radically different experiences of the Forge of Fury or Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan, for example.  Even in a homebrew game, there is a certain degree of verisimilitude that has to give way for game to proceed.  Splitting the party, for example, is possible, but generally impractical for any reasonable length of time.  The walls are in different places, but there ARE walls.  That's why we have rules. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />All of which ignores the possibility that maybe they just don't enjoy D&D as much as you do.  It's entirely possible that, after playing D&D for a long time, they find that they get more bang for their entertainment buck playing WoW...or maybe they'll burn out on that too, eventually, and then return to D&D.  Or move on to something else.  Like Sands in the Hourglass, these are the Days of our Games.....</blockquote>

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