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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 9668184" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>High end delves have been what my wife and I have mostly done in War Within, and it's been great in that it's the exact right size grouping for us 99% of the time and allows us to do content solo when the other isn't available.</p><p></p><p>Ironically, it makes doing most raiding, especially LFR raiding, pointless, because we almost immediately leapfrog that gear. (It definitely helps playing in a hunter + priest duo with 20+ years of WoW experience, to be clear.) The new raid track in the Undermine raid, which is aggressively timegated -- it'll take five months starting from day one to get all the way to unlocking the sweet mecha-Tyrannosaur mount, and "only" 2.5 months later on -- keeps me doing the raid each week, but it feels more like a faceroll and more like homework with every passing week.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what the answer is, since I think having delves be their own endgame is good -- we're working on getting the seasonal mount for both of our characters, which has to be done in solo mode -- but there's definitely some friction in moving between PvP, delves, dungeons and raiding as one's preferred activity, as it's a lot easier to just go hardcore in one or two modes rather than have to do a song and dance to convince the player-gated higher end content in higher end PvP, dungeons and raiding to give you a chance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 9668184, member: 11760"] High end delves have been what my wife and I have mostly done in War Within, and it's been great in that it's the exact right size grouping for us 99% of the time and allows us to do content solo when the other isn't available. Ironically, it makes doing most raiding, especially LFR raiding, pointless, because we almost immediately leapfrog that gear. (It definitely helps playing in a hunter + priest duo with 20+ years of WoW experience, to be clear.) The new raid track in the Undermine raid, which is aggressively timegated -- it'll take five months starting from day one to get all the way to unlocking the sweet mecha-Tyrannosaur mount, and "only" 2.5 months later on -- keeps me doing the raid each week, but it feels more like a faceroll and more like homework with every passing week. I'm not sure what the answer is, since I think having delves be their own endgame is good -- we're working on getting the seasonal mount for both of our characters, which has to be done in solo mode -- but there's definitely some friction in moving between PvP, delves, dungeons and raiding as one's preferred activity, as it's a lot easier to just go hardcore in one or two modes rather than have to do a song and dance to convince the player-gated higher end content in higher end PvP, dungeons and raiding to give you a chance. [/QUOTE]
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