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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tonguez" data-source="post: 8118039" data-attributes="member: 1125">Thats not entirely correct, at least not in terms of the order in which things happen.Locations is very very important, but even then the standard principle of village placement is 1. How much food can be produced (location) and 2. How far are peasants willing to walk to get Stuff (trade).In medieval times due to generally low land productivity it takes about 30 acres to feed a family of 5 per year. Thats supplemented with foraging,fishing and hunting over a much larger area. Its also labour intensive and so single families are encouraged to expand into small settlements. In Englands Hyde system these small settlements (ie 3es thorp/hamlet) were rated at 120 acres as a taxable unit.These settlements were all dependent on crops and so needed to be established near good waterways and it would be a ideal bonus to have other resources too.Excess crops also needed to be traded for goods and so villagers started to gather in Markets. Under old English law a Town is any Village with a Market and they tend to follow the 8 mile rule (the people in the small hamlets, homesteads and villages will walk up to 8 miles to trade at a market). A Market Town might have a central Church or a nearby Keep however Castles and Churches tend to come after Towns are established.Ruins:I also think people tend to get caught up in the Megadungeon approach that D&D has used in the past when in fact a lot of real world ruins are much smaller: abandoned castles, disused churches, old cottages in the woods, the old cave system behind the dump,  the old stone circle that the elders warn the Children to avoid - theyre all ruins</blockquote>

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