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<blockquote data-quote="StarFyre" data-source="post: 3982446" data-attributes="member: 26055"><p><strong>plane...</strong></p><p></p><p>plane sailing...</p><p></p><p>My friends and I agree with you...</p><p></p><p>Monsters ARE becoming more cookie cutter; although I agree with how they are designed, my envisionment of the special type monsters at least (mind flayers, balors, pit fiends, mariliths, avatars, dragons, etc) require tons of ablities (that dont need to be similar to character ones, but lots to allow them to be true survivors, bosses, and just bad asses).</p><p></p><p>I think this is for the modern/common gamer. I can't even remember every time i've watched a pure video gamer play something like baldur's gate, etc and not be able to handle tactics to handle a creature which is immune to something, or is harder to beat than just unload tons of stuff at it ala WoW styles in specific times so that the agro mechanic stays as you need it to stop the boss from charging the mages in the back, etc).</p><p></p><p>However, there is an easy solution to this. We can just add back abilities that we envision for such creatures for our own cosmologies <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Regarding Far Realm - THIS IS AWESOME. I used the far realm for about 3 months in the game i Dm'ed and will bring it back later...much to the fright of my players.</p><p></p><p>I will keep it as lovcraftian and discordiant as before...hopefully 4E does the same. If they try to make it even a sense more 'normal' so that they can sell adventures with 20x20 environment rooms for it (which they couldn't do for the great wheel planes such as pandemonium, etc...prob causing the marketting decisionto make the planes much more 'normal' ehhehhee), I will be quite upset.</p><p></p><p>But so far...as expected, I like about 50% of 4E, and the rest I will house rule heavily (which I do quite a bit now anyways) so no big deal.</p><p></p><p>bring on 4E <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Sanjay</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarFyre, post: 3982446, member: 26055"] [b]plane...[/b] plane sailing... My friends and I agree with you... Monsters ARE becoming more cookie cutter; although I agree with how they are designed, my envisionment of the special type monsters at least (mind flayers, balors, pit fiends, mariliths, avatars, dragons, etc) require tons of ablities (that dont need to be similar to character ones, but lots to allow them to be true survivors, bosses, and just bad asses). I think this is for the modern/common gamer. I can't even remember every time i've watched a pure video gamer play something like baldur's gate, etc and not be able to handle tactics to handle a creature which is immune to something, or is harder to beat than just unload tons of stuff at it ala WoW styles in specific times so that the agro mechanic stays as you need it to stop the boss from charging the mages in the back, etc). However, there is an easy solution to this. We can just add back abilities that we envision for such creatures for our own cosmologies :D Regarding Far Realm - THIS IS AWESOME. I used the far realm for about 3 months in the game i Dm'ed and will bring it back later...much to the fright of my players. I will keep it as lovcraftian and discordiant as before...hopefully 4E does the same. If they try to make it even a sense more 'normal' so that they can sell adventures with 20x20 environment rooms for it (which they couldn't do for the great wheel planes such as pandemonium, etc...prob causing the marketting decisionto make the planes much more 'normal' ehhehhee), I will be quite upset. But so far...as expected, I like about 50% of 4E, and the rest I will house rule heavily (which I do quite a bit now anyways) so no big deal. bring on 4E :) Sanjay [/QUOTE]
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