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<blockquote data-quote="ferratus" data-source="post: 3983260" data-attributes="member: 55966"><p>Dragons building their own lair is the exception, not the rule, anyway. They generally take over salt mines, natural caves, or dwarven strongholds, if Shimmergloom and Smaug are any indication.</p><p></p><p>There was that white dragon in Dungeon Magazine who had a lair shaped out of a glacier... but he also had a sorcerer minion to help him with that, along with various monstrous humanoids and half-dragon spawn.</p><p></p><p>On the other subject of dragons both the non-aligned and new metallic dragons do indeed put them out of step with traditional Dragonlance (plus the FR Wyms of the North article). The drift in alignment could be explained by the death of Takhisis and the "undiefication" of Paladine if a DM was so inclined, but I don't think I'd make it an official part of the setting. (Though it would be the first interesting storyline to come out of that waste). Tiamat in general makes less sense, given that the evil dragons are no longer strictly evil... why not have 10 heads instead of 5?</p><p></p><p>For the new dragons, put me down as displeased about the adamantine dragon, and do agree lead or mercury would be a better fit. Lead more than mercury, because mercury's personality traits seem to have been taken by Copper in 3e. Lead does its job well as a comparison to "base metal" in medieval alchemy (contrasted to the highest metal gold), and would be good to depict a good dragon that is slow, sluggish and stupid, a good counterpart to the white dragons.</p><p></p><p>Iron is a fitting substitute for bronze, and can adopt all of the bronze's personality traits. They wouldn't really make sense as sea dragons anymore, but gold dragons live underwater anyway. The good dragons need a good mountain dragon to compete with the reds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ferratus, post: 3983260, member: 55966"] Dragons building their own lair is the exception, not the rule, anyway. They generally take over salt mines, natural caves, or dwarven strongholds, if Shimmergloom and Smaug are any indication. There was that white dragon in Dungeon Magazine who had a lair shaped out of a glacier... but he also had a sorcerer minion to help him with that, along with various monstrous humanoids and half-dragon spawn. On the other subject of dragons both the non-aligned and new metallic dragons do indeed put them out of step with traditional Dragonlance (plus the FR Wyms of the North article). The drift in alignment could be explained by the death of Takhisis and the "undiefication" of Paladine if a DM was so inclined, but I don't think I'd make it an official part of the setting. (Though it would be the first interesting storyline to come out of that waste). Tiamat in general makes less sense, given that the evil dragons are no longer strictly evil... why not have 10 heads instead of 5? For the new dragons, put me down as displeased about the adamantine dragon, and do agree lead or mercury would be a better fit. Lead more than mercury, because mercury's personality traits seem to have been taken by Copper in 3e. Lead does its job well as a comparison to "base metal" in medieval alchemy (contrasted to the highest metal gold), and would be good to depict a good dragon that is slow, sluggish and stupid, a good counterpart to the white dragons. Iron is a fitting substitute for bronze, and can adopt all of the bronze's personality traits. They wouldn't really make sense as sea dragons anymore, but gold dragons live underwater anyway. The good dragons need a good mountain dragon to compete with the reds. [/QUOTE]
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