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<blockquote data-quote="Lackhand" data-source="post: 3983849" data-attributes="member: 36160"><p>To rebut and expand: Imagine two planes. One is the Plane of Nothing But Cheese, and the other is the plane of Random Unexpected Cheese.</p><p></p><p>On the plane of Nothing but Cheese, travelers know that there is nothing but petrifying Gorgonzola and beneficent Gouda cheese, and thus they go in buffed to the gills vs. cheese. Anything that requires that much protection becomes uninteresting: the actual effects of the plane are so deadly that full protection must be worn which, paradoxically, removes all danger of the surroundings.</p><p>On the plane of Fire, <em>Dispel Magic</em> is scarier than <em>Fireball</em>.</p><p>That's bad.</p><p></p><p>On the plane of Random Unexpected Cheese, travelers know that there are rivers of molten cheese and wild bands of Monterey Jacks out there, but they can see them coming. Cheesepuffs blow on the wind, so they need to be a bit careful, but the protection they need to bring isn't the same; if they get dispelled, they'll need to take cover, but they can survive with some pluck and luck.</p><p>Consider the Shadowfell which is ghost-haunted and shot through with spectral doldrums, which has sudden unexpected soul storms blowing through, bringing grim reminders of the briefness of all mortal existence. Contrast this with the Negative Energy Plane, which kills you in about as many rounds as you have levels.</p><p></p><p>I would still want to prepare to visit the Shadowfell, but it's a *lot* more interesting. If I don't last long enough on the negative because of its homogeneity of hostility, I don't get to have fun. That's not interesting -- focused areas that Just Kill You are fine, but an entire plane? Why bother? You have to shield yourself so heavily to go there that it `doesn't count` anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lackhand, post: 3983849, member: 36160"] To rebut and expand: Imagine two planes. One is the Plane of Nothing But Cheese, and the other is the plane of Random Unexpected Cheese. On the plane of Nothing but Cheese, travelers know that there is nothing but petrifying Gorgonzola and beneficent Gouda cheese, and thus they go in buffed to the gills vs. cheese. Anything that requires that much protection becomes uninteresting: the actual effects of the plane are so deadly that full protection must be worn which, paradoxically, removes all danger of the surroundings. On the plane of Fire, [i]Dispel Magic[/i] is scarier than [i]Fireball[/i]. That's bad. On the plane of Random Unexpected Cheese, travelers know that there are rivers of molten cheese and wild bands of Monterey Jacks out there, but they can see them coming. Cheesepuffs blow on the wind, so they need to be a bit careful, but the protection they need to bring isn't the same; if they get dispelled, they'll need to take cover, but they can survive with some pluck and luck. Consider the Shadowfell which is ghost-haunted and shot through with spectral doldrums, which has sudden unexpected soul storms blowing through, bringing grim reminders of the briefness of all mortal existence. Contrast this with the Negative Energy Plane, which kills you in about as many rounds as you have levels. I would still want to prepare to visit the Shadowfell, but it's a *lot* more interesting. If I don't last long enough on the negative because of its homogeneity of hostility, I don't get to have fun. That's not interesting -- focused areas that Just Kill You are fine, but an entire plane? Why bother? You have to shield yourself so heavily to go there that it `doesn't count` anymore. [/QUOTE]
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