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Message: <blockquote data-quote="erucsbo" data-source="post: 3824276" data-attributes="member: 40110">I *do* really appreciate thisas rv said - still an AoO <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />  but the -20 might be worth it if I can get them close enough to the spellcasters.they have heat protection up (though if they are in the lava it will still hurt a lot)and I've pulled the fear back to only when they initially entered in sight of the ice prison of Tyrus. I might put it back in as another check if they venture too far from the paladin though.never too late. The barbarian is raging, so I might use that to have him chase a giant in to an ambush, then use Improved Overrun ... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Divide and conquer is what they are trying to use on the giants.The giants are Lawful, so I think I'll play on that and let the chaotic actions of the party reap their own rewards. I really just need to make sure I have as much of the rules nutted out as possible because a few of the players really do know them better than me (and thus have a better bluff check in the metagame!)</blockquote>