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Message: <blockquote data-quote="erucsbo" data-source="post: 4701824" data-attributes="member: 40110">Turn-nerfing in NParty is trying to find the soul of one of the PCs in N (he drew the Void from a DoMT and I ruled that it got stuck in the tomb - bwahaha).They are therefore perhaps doing a little more exploring than otherwise would be the case, but that is a side-issue.They have cast Invisibility to Undead - which essentially bypasses the Skeleton Hordes etc, and landed them up against Vinnara's Dread Wraiths as the first test of turning. Poor turning rolls meant that it was a while before they got a success, during which time the fighter (with a ghost touch bastard sword) and paladin (sun blade - when it affected them) duly did the majority of dispatching.When a high enough roll was made and I responded with - they don't flee, they just take some damage (as per the Fearless Encounter condition), there was a near riot.The Unhallowed and Desecration aspects we can live with as they are modifiers to the effective DC of the turns, but Fearless *breaks* turning, denying the clerics their major power to deal with undead in an undead infested environment, and messing with a core game mechanic.I'm considering just having the turn hedge the undead away outside a particular radius and if it would have destroyed the undead, perhaps incapacitate them instead, but want to hear what others have done.I can't be alone in noting how badly clerics get screwed over in the Tomb wrt to turning - especially considering that Desecration 4, Unhallowed 6 and Fearless are the *default* condition of the entire tomb. Suggestions readily welcomed.</blockquote>

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