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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7768802" data-attributes="member: 6775031">I draw a distinction between what happens during the game, and what happens prior to the game. Making an analogy to movies, character backstory is part of the premise, and you have to buy into the premise before you decide to watch the movie in the first place. The movie itself (or game, as the case may be), is about how that premise plays out. If you go to watch a Superman movie (for example), then it's unfair to criticize the idea of human-looking aliens who come to Earth and have superpowers, but it's perfectly fair to criticize if those powers act inconsistently between scenes. Likewise, if I'm choosing to play an elven wizard whose brother died under tragic circumstances, then that's just the premise, and it doesn't affect how any choices made after the game actually starts.FATE would definitely bribe you into letting your brother die during play in order to make the story more dramatic, though. There are a few different ways that you could model that relationship, but at least one of the ways would make you choose between saving your brother and gaining a Fate point, where Fate points run the resource economy that matters during boss fights.I feel like immersion is possible regardless of mechanics. After all, we can all become immersed in any number of stories told in a variety of media. Obviously, different game mechanics will click as immersive for some folks and not for others. But I don't think I'd say that any playstyle is objectively more immersive.I'll buy that you can be immersed in a story-game character in the same way that you can be immersed in a novel or movie character, but it's fundamentally a different type of immersion from actually pretending to be that person. Maybe it's not so different, for some people; and I'm sure that some people actually prefer the former over the latter; but I have zero interest in playing the former type of game.</blockquote>

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