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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7769033" data-attributes="member: 6775031">I submit that the only way for a player to not metagame at all is for them to have no knowledge of reality. You can't use out-of-game information if you don't *know* any out-of-game information.If you didn't know the game rules, though, then you would have no choice except to rely on out-of-game information. You would be forced to meta-game.For example, let's say you're fighting some goblins, and one of them shoots you with an arrow. OW! Depending on how much you know about the real world, you might expect to fall down and/or become incapacitated with pain, such that your best hope of survival would be hiding behind cover while your allies protect you.But that's not the reality your character is living in; that's just our real world, which is a different place that follows different rules. You're drawing on out-of-game knowledge, to fill in for the in-game knowledge that you're lacking. If you had read the rulebook, you would know that being shot by an arrow doesn't cause crippling pain that prevents you from swinging a sword effectively. The in-game knowledge, which is observable to the character, is that you can keep fighting effectively as long as you stay conscious. That's the truth about how their world works, and everything that happens in that world will be consistent with that.While it's unreasonable to expect anyone to remain completely ignorant about reality, just to make it easier to play a game, it's not unreasonable to ask that they avoid drawing on that knowledge while trying to role-play. They're going to occasionally slip up, because nobody's perfect, but they can at least make the attempt.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7769033, member: 6775031"] I submit that the only way for a player to not metagame at all is for them to have [I]no knowledge of reality[/I]. You can't use out-of-game information if you don't *know* any out-of-game information. If you didn't know the game rules, though, then you would have no choice [I]except[/I] to rely on out-of-game information. You would be [I]forced[/I] to meta-game. For example, let's say you're fighting some goblins, and one of them shoots you with an arrow. OW! Depending on how much you know about the real world, you might expect to fall down and/or become incapacitated with pain, such that your best hope of survival would be hiding behind cover while your allies protect you. But that's not the reality your character is living in; that's just our real world, which is a different place that follows different rules. You're drawing on out-of-game knowledge, to fill in for the in-game knowledge that you're lacking. If you had read the rulebook, you would know that being shot by an arrow doesn't cause crippling pain that prevents you from swinging a sword effectively. The in-game knowledge, which is observable to the character, is that you can keep fighting effectively as long as you stay conscious. That's the truth about how their world works, and everything that happens in that world will be consistent with that. While it's unreasonable to expect anyone to remain completely ignorant about reality, just to make it easier to play a game, it's not unreasonable to ask that they avoid drawing on that knowledge while trying to role-play. They're going to occasionally slip up, because nobody's perfect, but they can at least make the attempt. [/QUOTE]

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