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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7769064" data-attributes="member: 22779">But, flipping a coin isn't a simulation at all.&nbsp; A simulation actually has to tell you something about what happened.&nbsp; It has to answer basic questions and flipping a coin answers nothing.&nbsp; Just because you get a result does not make something a simulation.&nbsp; Otherwise everything is a simulation and the term is meaningless.&nbsp; IOW, a simulation has to create a model by which an independent viewer could actually understand how you got from A to B to C.&nbsp; Now, if we use a coin flip and you declare monster X is dead, an independent viewer has absolutely no idea how you got that result.&nbsp; What does a &quot;heads&quot; actually mean in the fiction?&nbsp; Well, because a coin flip is about as gamist as it comes, it means anything you want it to mean, so long as Monster X is dead.&nbsp; So, any and all narratives are equally valid and indisputable.&nbsp; Imagine applying that logic to GURPS or RuneQuest.&nbsp; Or Star Fleet Battles.&nbsp; &quot;What do you mean my warp drive exploded?&nbsp; Well,&nbsp; I flipped a heads.&nbsp; *table flips*&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />But, be that as it may, from a world point of view, D&amp;D has shown very little interest mechanically in simulating anything.&nbsp; Completely borked economic systems, complete disregard to anything approaching a functioning ecosystem, absolutely no attention paid to how the existence of magic would impact social and political structures in an iron age setting.&nbsp; So on and so forth.&nbsp; D&amp;D does one thing really, really well - makes interesting adventures for players to play through.&nbsp; Anything beyond that is generally just pulled out of the DM's imagination.Well, you mention Traveller.&nbsp; Now THERE is a world simulating system.&nbsp; Can't fault that one.&nbsp; But, again, compare Traveler to D&amp;D.&nbsp; AFAIK, D&amp;D has never produced anything like the Traveller world generation system for creating fantasy worlds.Although, to be fair, THAT'S a supplement I would LOVE to see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7769064, member: 22779"] But, flipping a coin isn't a simulation at all. A simulation actually has to tell you something about what happened. It has to answer basic questions and flipping a coin answers nothing. Just because you get a result does not make something a simulation. Otherwise everything is a simulation and the term is meaningless. IOW, a simulation has to create a model by which an independent viewer could actually understand how you got from A to B to C. Now, if we use a coin flip and you declare monster X is dead, an independent viewer has absolutely no idea how you got that result. What does a "heads" actually mean in the fiction? Well, because a coin flip is about as gamist as it comes, it means anything you want it to mean, so long as Monster X is dead. So, any and all narratives are equally valid and indisputable. Imagine applying that logic to GURPS or RuneQuest. Or Star Fleet Battles. "What do you mean my warp drive exploded? Well, I flipped a heads. *table flips*" :D But, be that as it may, from a world point of view, D&D has shown very little interest mechanically in simulating anything. Completely borked economic systems, complete disregard to anything approaching a functioning ecosystem, absolutely no attention paid to how the existence of magic would impact social and political structures in an iron age setting. So on and so forth. D&D does one thing really, really well - makes interesting adventures for players to play through. Anything beyond that is generally just pulled out of the DM's imagination. Well, you mention Traveller. Now THERE is a world simulating system. Can't fault that one. But, again, compare Traveler to D&D. AFAIK, D&D has never produced anything like the Traveller world generation system for creating fantasy worlds. Although, to be fair, THAT'S a supplement I would LOVE to see. [/QUOTE]

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