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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7769287" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Right, it's not that important, why are you upset he's insulted you?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, okay, the 'other people are equally ill-informed and prejudiced' defense. Nope.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Didn't stop lewpuls, though, did it?</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, no, no. When people say 'this article is bad because it is basicly made-up slanders about a playstyle' you don't get to say, 'I'll only listen to your specific points about the topic.' You can't insist that people actually engage false and insulting slanders as if they have merit and deserve a detailed discussion on merits. The article is factually wrong in many places about NS playstyles. This thread, and the last, are chock full of good discussion on the topic that people brought while debunking the articles. Ignoring that and continuing to insist that you, YOU, will only engage if people bring YOU individualized specific complaints is as dismissive as the original article. I'm not here to feed you arguments in the manner you think this article deserves. Engage the posts already here.</p><p></p><p>Instead, though, you really seem to want to defend this article. To that end, I understand your approach -- by insisting on particularized examples from the article, you force the discussion to be rooted in the article, thereby proving it's worth discussion. Bollocks, I say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You may not intend it, but this reads as, "I do not think it's possible to discuss OS vs NS without rancor and insults, so insisting that such discussions be diplomatic and absent such is pointless." If you cannot discuss a topic diplomatically, YOU SHOULD NOT BE PAID TO DO SO. As many have pointed out, if this wasn't an article, it wouldn't pass muster with the rules. </p><p></p><p>There's been plenty of non-rancorous discussion on this topic (and plenty of rancorous, to be fair). It is not out-of-bounds to expect that paid content on this site should be of the former and not the latter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7769287, member: 16814"] Right, it's not that important, why are you upset he's insulted you? Ah, okay, the 'other people are equally ill-informed and prejudiced' defense. Nope. Didn't stop lewpuls, though, did it? No, no, no. When people say 'this article is bad because it is basicly made-up slanders about a playstyle' you don't get to say, 'I'll only listen to your specific points about the topic.' You can't insist that people actually engage false and insulting slanders as if they have merit and deserve a detailed discussion on merits. The article is factually wrong in many places about NS playstyles. This thread, and the last, are chock full of good discussion on the topic that people brought while debunking the articles. Ignoring that and continuing to insist that you, YOU, will only engage if people bring YOU individualized specific complaints is as dismissive as the original article. I'm not here to feed you arguments in the manner you think this article deserves. Engage the posts already here. Instead, though, you really seem to want to defend this article. To that end, I understand your approach -- by insisting on particularized examples from the article, you force the discussion to be rooted in the article, thereby proving it's worth discussion. Bollocks, I say. You may not intend it, but this reads as, "I do not think it's possible to discuss OS vs NS without rancor and insults, so insisting that such discussions be diplomatic and absent such is pointless." If you cannot discuss a topic diplomatically, YOU SHOULD NOT BE PAID TO DO SO. As many have pointed out, if this wasn't an article, it wouldn't pass muster with the rules. There's been plenty of non-rancorous discussion on this topic (and plenty of rancorous, to be fair). It is not out-of-bounds to expect that paid content on this site should be of the former and not the latter. [/QUOTE]
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