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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 7769378" data-attributes="member: 85555">I think this conversation is challenging because clearly we are all walking around with a very different sense of the boundaries between old school, new school and other styles. Fate is a system I have to admit has never really connected with me, so I've never understood it well enough to comment on what it does. But my impression is it isn't the kind of game I am talking about here. In the context of the discussion, Hussar brought up how many systems now require less effort by the GM to establish on the fly rulings. I was responding to that, and I felt he hit upon a distinction I have seen. I don't think distrust of GM authority is ubiquitous outside of old school play though. I think optimism about GMs is important to old school play, and one of the most common criticisms people in the OSR field is around whether makes for better game to approach things this way. I was responding to Hussar's post there, and his points are ones I've encountered a lot when someone is critical of the OSR or comes to an OSR table and doesn't like the experience. I think it would probably be a mistake to assume too much about new school based on this, especially since we don't really have a workable definition of new school in this thread. Often times though, when I play with or talk to players and GMs who come from a more mainstream style of play, they have big concerns about running a game that puts that much weight on the GM to always be on the ball. I am phrasing things in a way that reflects my own bias. I didn't have to frame it as a trust issue, but to me, that is how I see it when I make a game (I am trusting that GMs can handle this kind of material without lengthy explanation). Someone else might frame it as there are not enough guidelines in OSR for GMs, or as Hussar did, the OSR and Old School expect GMs to create new rules on the fly. At the very least, faith in GM abilities, is something you see people within the OSR talking a lot about.</blockquote>

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