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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jay Verkuilen" data-source="post: 7769561" data-attributes="member: 6873517">I very much agree with this. Lots of new games were explicitly built to handle some perceived deficiency of D&D. Rolemaster, for instance, started out as a set of "advanced" rules that were pretty clearly to be added to D&D for players looking for a more detailed set of rules. It became a game in its own right. I'm not familiar with the Rifts family of games much, but they are fairly clearly D&D derivatives. I've mentioned the business side, too, and I think it bears remembering: Back in the day, TSR was known as They Sue Regularly for a reason. Many game rule innovations happened because designers needed to deviate enough to avoid a tort.</blockquote>