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<blockquote data-quote="GMMichael" data-source="post: 7996081" data-attributes="member: 6685730">Is there an implied &quot;traditional&quot; in &quot;RPG combat?&quot;&nbsp; Because some games don't treat combat as sport.&nbsp; Some games treat it as a gruesome, dirty, blood-spitting disaster (thanks, Zweihaender).I wouldn't say that dice-(or opposition)-fudging is inevitable.&nbsp; I'm reading that to mean that fudging must sometimes be used to allow PCs to win a contest, so designers shouldn't stress too much about making a fair game.&nbsp; But what if the game's rules aren't set up to determine win/loss?&nbsp; Or what if the game allows the GM to write &quot;victory&quot; into the script, before the battle has begun?&nbsp; Or it has a built-in fudging rule (like fate points) that players can use?&nbsp; It's not &quot;fudging&quot; if there's a rule for it!A follow-up article to this might discuss why GMs should understand the odds behind specific dice-contests, because as the ones with the primary responsibility for modifying those contests, GMs should know the fire with which they're playing.&nbsp; E.g. how adding a bonus point to a roll in D&amp;D is not equal to adding a bonus point to a Fantasy AGE roll.PS - Totally agree that PCs shouldn't expect to win every battle.&nbsp; My characters usually like to avoid combat, in a sort of &quot;I like living&quot; way!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMMichael, post: 7996081, member: 6685730"] Is there an implied "traditional" in "RPG combat?" Because some games don't treat combat as sport. Some games treat it as a gruesome, dirty, blood-spitting disaster (thanks, Zweihaender). I wouldn't say that dice-(or opposition)-fudging is inevitable. I'm reading that to mean that fudging must sometimes be used to allow PCs to win a contest, so designers shouldn't stress too much about making a fair game. But what if the game's rules aren't set up to determine win/loss? Or what if the game allows the GM to write "victory" into the script, before the battle has begun? Or it has a built-in fudging rule (like fate points) that players can use? It's not "fudging" if there's a rule for it! A follow-up article to this might discuss why GMs should understand the odds behind specific dice-contests, because as the ones with the primary responsibility for modifying those contests, GMs should know the fire with which they're playing. E.g. how adding a bonus point to a roll in D&D is not equal to adding a bonus point to a Fantasy AGE roll. PS - Totally agree that PCs shouldn't expect to win every battle. My characters usually like to avoid combat, in a sort of "I like living" way! [/QUOTE]

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